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arXiv:2509.10437

Maximally $ψ-$epistemic models cannot explain gambling with two qubits

Sagnik Ray, Anubhav Chaturvedi, Debashis Saha

Published Sep 12, 2025• 0 citations
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Abstract

We investigate the minimal proof for ruling out maximally $ψ-$epistemic interpretations of quantum theory, in which the indistinguishable nature of two quantum states is fully explained by the epistemic overlap of their corresponding distributions over ontic states. To this end, we extend the standard notion of epistemic overlap by considering a penalized distinguishability game involving two states and three possible answers, named as Quantum Gambling. In this context, using only two pure states and their equal mixture, we present an experimentally robust no-go theorem for maximally $ψ-$epistemic models, showing that qubit states achieve the maximal difference between quantum and epistemic overlaps.

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10.48550/arxiv.2509.10437

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We investigate the minimal proof for ruling out maximally ψ−ψ-ψ−epistemic interpretations of quantum theory, in which the indistinguishable nature of two quantum states is fully explained by the epistemic overlap of their corresponding distributions over ontic states. To this end, we extend the standard notion of epistemic overlap by considering a penalized distinguishability game involving two states and three possible answers, named as Quantum Gambling. In this context, using only two pure states and their equal mixture, we present an experimentally robust no-go theorem for maximally ψ−ψ-ψ−epistemic models, showing that qubit states achieve the maximal difference between quantum and epistemic overlaps.
Abstract An ontological model is termed as maximally ψ -epistemic if the overlap between any two quantum states is fully accounted for by the overlap of their respective probability distributions of ontic states. However, in the literature, there exist two different mathematical definitions (termed here as 1M ψ E and 2M ψ E) that capture the equivalent notion of maximal ψ -epistemicity. In this work, we provide three theorems to critically examine the connections between preparation non-contextuality and the aforementioned two definitions of maximal ψ -epistemicity. In theorem 1, we provide a simple and direct argument of an existing proof to demonstrate that the mixed state preparation non-contextuality implies the first definition of maximal ψ -epistemicity. In theorem 2, we prove that the second definition of maximal ψ -epistemicity implies pure-state preparation non-contextuality. If both the definitions capture the equivalent notion of maximal ψ -epistemicity, then from the aforementioned two theorems one infers that the mixed-state preparation non-contextuality implies pure-state preparation non-contextuality. But, in theorem 3, we demonstrate that the mixed-state preparation non-contextuality in an ontological model implies pure-state contextuality and vice versa. This leads one to conclude that 1M ψ E and 2M ψ E capture inequivalent notions of maximal ψ -epistemicity. The implications of our results and their connections to other no-go theorems are discussed.
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