n an earlier note (1), it was argued the time-independent Schrodinger equation may be written in a momentum form by using W(x)=Sum over p fp exp(ipx)= wavefunction and V(x)=Sum over p Vp exp(ipx). This lead to an equation for each plane wave of the form: p*p/2m fp + Sum over j+k=p Vj fk = E fp ((1)). In this note, we try to argue that ((1)) does not need to follow from the time-independent Schrodinger equation, but rather seems to be a consequence of fp, which is related to conditional probability P(p/x).
n an earlier note (1), it was argued the time-independent Schrodinger equation may be written in a momentum form by using W(x)=Sum over p fp exp(ipx)= wavefunction and V(x)=Sum over p Vp exp(ipx). This lead to an equation for each plane wave of the form: p*p/2m fp + Sum over j+k=p Vj fk = E fp ((1)). In this note, we try to argue that ((1)) does not need to follow from the time-independent Schrodinger equation, but rather seems to be a consequence of fp, which is related to conditional probability P(p/x).
The momentum wavefunction fp of a particle in a box (with infinite potential walls) has been described (1) (2) in terms of many plane waves (i.e. many fp’s) even though the energy E=(hbar k)/2/2m expresses only one k. Thus, the energy E appears to be an average. It seems one may have a plane wave exp(ipx) which collides inelastically with the wall and changes to exp(-ip1x) etc.; on average energy is conserved. In (1) and (2), the spatial wavefunction W(x)= Sum over p fp exp(ipx) is obtained by solving the time-independent Schrodinger equation, and fp from taking the Fourier transform of W(x). These are strictly math procedures it seems. In a previous note (3), the time independent Schrodinger equation is written with V(x) and W(x) both expressed in terms of Fourier transforms. This lead to an equation for each p of the form: Sum j+k=p Vk fk = (E-p*p/2m) fp ((1)). In such a case, V(x) exists throughout x. For the case of an infinite wall, there is still a potential, but only at the end walls. In this note, we suggest ((1)) may be used to obtain fp without taking the Fourier transform of W(x) or solving for Vk. This approach also shows cycling is involved, even for a particle in a box. The cycling occurs at the walls.
In classical mechanics, the spatial density d(x) of a particle moving under a conservation of energy law .5mv(x)v(x) + V(x) = E is proportional to 1/v(x). This is obtained from d(x)= dt/T, i.e. the probability to be at x equals the time spent at x divided by the cycle time T. Given that dx=vdt to first order, density is proportional to 1/v(x). Now, d(x) is supposed to match the time independent quantum mechanical density W(x)W(x), where W(x) is the wavefunction, for high energy levels. Thus, one would expect the time a p wave (plane wave) spends at a point should be part of time independent quantum mechanics, but it does not seem to be overtly present. Furthermore, there is the question of T for the quantum mechanical problem. It is known that even for a time-independent solution W(x) has a factor exp(iEt). Thus, it seems time is present, even if it disappears in the density W*(x)W(x). It is argued that W*(x)W(x) = P(x) where P is probability, but W(x) is related to conditional probabilities such as P(x/p) or P(p/x). Thus, these conditional probabilities should be related to time. In an earlier note, we tried to show the time-independent Schrodinger equation implies all p plane waves are cycling with the same frequency E. In this note, we try to find a quantum mechanical representation for P(x,p)=dt/T where dt(x,p) is the time spent at x by a plane wave p and also try to evaluate T.
The Schrodinger equation for a bound state includes the classical potential V(r) for which –d/dxj V represents Fj or force in the j direction. It has been argued in a previous note (1), that one may attribute physical meaning to the Fourier series of V(r). In such a case, V(r) and W(r) (the wavefunction) are quantities averaged over momentum (or vectors) as well as being averages over time. One may write the product of V(r)W(r) as one of two Fourier series and then reorganize into a series with basis exp(ikr). In such a case, one examines an interaction with V at each momentum wave level. Then the average is only over time as different k momentum states of in W combine with different p momentum states of the Fourier series of V(r). For a p momentum wave, one may write: p2/2m fp + Sum k Vk f(p-k) = E fp where W= Sum over p fp exp(ipx) in one dimension ((1)) The objective of this note is to observe differences in the interaction of a single plane wave with a potential ((1)) and the interaction of W with V in the Schrodinger equation. In particular, for a particle in a box with infinite walls, V(x)=0 inside the one dimensional box, yet the Fourier series of W includes all p values. From ((1)), even though V(x)=0 as an average, there seems to still be an interaction with various Vk values (Vk= the kth Fourier transform) in the interior of the box as ((1)) holds at all x points.
In a series of notes (1), we argued that the time-independent Schrodinger equation may be considered as a statistical conservation of average energy equation. We further argued that V(x)=Sum over k Vk exp(ikx) delivers stochastic potential hits which create a momentum distribution W(x)= Sum over p a(p) exp(ipx) at each x. The form exp(ipx) describes a free particle and a statistical distribution is made of such free particles. The form exp(ipx) has a modulus of 1 indicating that P(x)=constant. d/dx exp(ipx) = ip suggesting the change in conditional probability with space is related to classical momentum. Given a momentum distribution, each p at x occurs at a different time. Thus, one does not follow a classical particle in time x(t), nevertheless an average energy conservation equation applies. Taking the time-independent Schrodinger equation E W = -1/2m d/dx d/dx W + V(x) W and writing EW = i d/dt exp(-iEt), one obtains a time-dependent equation. We argue that if the time-independent case represents a classical conservation of average energy, the time-dependent equation should be linked to Newton’s equation of motion. This immediately leads to a problem because we argue one does not want x(t) for a statistical system. As a result, x in the time-dependent Schrodinger equation, which represented spatial position before, now represents a spatial variable that is independent of time. We consider the oscillator case and note that an amplitude is such a candidate where x(t)=XA(t). Thus, the time-dependent Schrodinger equation ultimately becomes an equation in A(t) with the amplitude cancelling, at least in the free particle and oscillator case. From such a consideration, one may work “backwards” and find a function for which the time-dependent Schrodinger equation (equating powers of X) becomes Newton’s second law. From this, one may show that exp(i Action) where Action = Integral dt1 (0,t) L where L is the classical Lagrangian is this solution with d/dX applying to X which is an amplitude, not x(t).
In this note, we wish to examine how the variance of u(x)= [Sum over p p fp exp(ipx)] / [ Sum over p fp exp(ipx)] namely: P(x) Conditional Variance(p) changes as one moves from one point to another. If one tries to eliminate u(x) from the first order change, one obtains d/dx P(x) = 2 u(x) P(x) which is a quantum mechanical result. This also leads to the change in the variance depending only on the force and kinetic energy. d/dx P(x)=2 u(x) P(x) also dictates how Shannon’s spatial entropy changes from point to point. Thus, it seems that the time-independent Schrodinger equation may be thought of in terms of changes in entropy density. The ideas here are a little different from those of (1).
In previous notes, we suggested that quantum bound states may be analysed in terms of the conditional probability P(p/x)= a(p)exp(ipx)/W(x) (where W(x) is the wavefunction) which allows for the calculation of average kinetic energy at each point x i.e. [Sum over p pp/2m P(p/x)]/ W(x). This added to V(x) yields E (average energy) at each x and yields the time-independent Schrodinger equation). We argued that probability is handled at the level of W(x)=Sum over p a(p) exp(ipx). Measurements (even internal) may knock a particle from one p1 state to another so another set of probabilities (P(x) and P(p)) arise, P(x) being based on: a(p1)exp(i p1x) exp(i p2x). Averages of f(p,x) follow from P(x) f(p,x) P(p/x). Thus, there are two sets of probabilities in quantum mechanics. Entropic dynamics (1) appears to begin with the probability P(x) and considers a transition probability P(x1 |x) with x1-x= an infinitesimal quantity. A product of transition probabilities is then taken to allow for finite x1-x differences. It is stated in (1) that there exists information about x but not p. The maximization of entropy density may be used to determine the form of P(x1 | x). A “drift velocity” is also included (which is later shown to be related to the phase of the wavefunction). Ultimately, the Schrodinger equation is also obtained. We argue one may use P(p/x) to also calculate P(x1 | x) and compare this result with that obtained through the maximization of entropy density. A type of drift velocity appears naturally in this approach. We argue that the form a(p)exp(ipx) already incorporates statistical ideas (i.e. maximum entropy) in that the modulus of exp(ipx) is identical for all x, endowing all x points with a “kind” of equivalent status. exp(ipx) is a function of p and x because one must calculate average kinetic energy at each x and this must change with x i.e. KEave(x) + V(x) = E. Thus, we think there are strong similarities between entropic dynamics and the approach of using P(p/x). There are also some differences in that the coefficient A of delta(x)delta(x) in P(x1 | x) = 1/Z exp{ A delta(x)delta(x) + B d Phi/dx delta(x)} is treated as independent of x in entropic dynamics, but is a specific function of x (related to d ln(W)/dx d ln(W)/dx + 1/W d/dx d/dx W) in the P(p/x) approach.