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arXiv:2609.25726

The Failure of Simultaneous Quantum Typicality

Benoit Collins

quant-phmath-phmath.FASubmitted Sep 22, 2026• Announced Sep 23, 2026• 0 citations
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Abstract

We establish exact thresholds for the failure of simultaneous quantum typicality: three parties for mixed states and four for pure states. For the four-qubit Higuchi--Sudbery state, every sequence satisfying the expected purity bounds on three overlapping marginals, with sufficiently small fixed positive entropy slack, is asymptotically perfectly distinguishable from the tensor powers of the input: its trace distance from them tends to the maximum value $2$. This maximal separation persists, with a common positive slack, throughout an open neighborhood in the full four-qubit state space. Tracing out one party yields a mixed tripartite example. The proof connects simultaneous quantum smoothing with polynomial concentration on $\CP^1$. Symmetry reduces the problem to a frame inequality on $\Sym^n(\mathbb C^2)$, where a linear entropy deficit competes with a quadratic cost of polynomial concentration. Bernstein--Markov estimates and a subharmonic barrier control this cost, yielding an exponential obstruction to simultaneous typicality. These results disprove Dutil's multiparty quantum typicality conjecture, formulated in 2011, and the one-shot simultaneous min-entropy-smoothing conjectures of Drescher--Fawzi and Colomer--Winter. Together with the positive results for smaller systems, they determine the smallest numbers of parties at which simultaneous typicality can fail.

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