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arXiv:2604.08024

Fixing semi-classical physics from first principles: how to derive effective classical-quantum dynamics from open quantum theory

Isaac Layton

quant-phSubmitted Apr 9, 2026• Announced Apr 10, 2026• 0 citations
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Semi-classical approaches approximate fully quantum descriptions with partially classical ones. Here we use a toy model to highlight the failings of the standard mean-field semi-classical approach, and show how including environmental decoherence can lead to improved semi-classical theories that are exact descriptions of the original quantum dynamics. In doing so, we show how consistent models of classical-quantum dynamics can arise as effective descriptions of open quantum systems.

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