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arXiv:2208.11722 · Quantum

A healthier semi-classical dynamics

Isaac Layton, Jonathan Oppenheim, Zachary Weller-Davies

Published Dec 16, 2024• 20 citations
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Abstract

We study the back-reaction of quantum systems onto classical ones. Taking the starting point that semi-classical physics should be described at all times by a point in classical phase space and a quantum state in Hilbert space, we consider an unravelling approach, describing the system in terms of a classical-quantum trajectory. We derive the general form of the dynamics under the assumptions that the classical trajectories are continuous and the evolution is autonomous, and the requirement that the dynamics is linear and completely positive in the combined classical-quantum state. This requirement is necessary in order to consistently describe probabilities, and forces the dynamics to be stochastic when the back-reaction is non-zero. The resulting equations of motion are natural generalisations of the standard semi-classical equations of motion, but since the resulting dynamics is linear in the combined classical-quantum state, it does not lead to the pathologies which usually follow from evolution laws based on expectation values. In particular, the evolution laws we present account for correlations between the classical and quantum system, which resolves issues associated with other semi-classical approaches. In addition, despite a breakdown of predictability in the classical degrees of freedom, the quantum state evolves deterministically conditioned on the classical trajectory, provided a trade-off between decoherence and diffusion is saturated. As a result, the quantum state remains pure when conditioned on the classical trajectory. To illustrate these points, we numerically simulate a number of semi-classical toy models, including one of vacuum fluctuations as a source driving the expansion of the universe. Finally, we discuss the application of these results to semi-classical gravity, and the black-hole information problem.

DOI
10.22331/q-2024-12-16-1565

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Consistent dynamics which couples classical and quantum degrees of freedom exists, provided it is stochastic. This dynamics is linear in the hybrid state, completely positive and trace preserving. One application of this is to study the back-reaction of quantum fields on space-time which does not suffer from the pathologies of the semi-classical equations. Here we introduce several toy models in which to study hybrid classical-quantum evolution, including a qubit coupled to a particle in a potential, and a quantum harmonic oscillator coupled to a classical one. We present an unravelling approach to calculate the dynamics, and provide code to numerically simulate it. Unlike the purely quantum case, the trajectories (or histories) of this unravelling can be unique, conditioned on the classical degrees of freedom for discrete realisations of the dynamics, when different jumps in the classical degrees of freedom are accompanied by the action of unique operators on the quantum system. As a result, the “measurement postulate'' of quantum theory is not needed; quantum systems become classical because they interact with a fundamentally classical field.
A concise and self-contained derivation of hybrid quantum-classical dynamics is given in terms of Markovian master equations. Many previously known results are rederived and revised and some of them are completed or corrected. Using a method as simple as possible, our goal is a brief introduction to the state of the art of hybrid dynamics, with a limited discussion of the implications for foundations and without discussion of further relevance in the measurement problem, quantum gravity, chemistry, numeric methods, etc. Hybrid dynamics is defined as a special case of composite quantum dynamics where the observables of one of the two subsystems are restricted to the commuting set of diagonal operators in a fixed basis. With this restriction, the derivation of hybrid dynamical equations is clear conceptually and simple technically. Jump and diffusive dynamics follow in the form of hybrid master equations. Their stochastic interpretation (called unravelings) is derived. We discuss gauge-type ambiguities, problems of uniqueness, and covariance of the diffusive master equation. Also conditions of minimum noise and of monitoring the quantum trajectory are derived. We conclude that the hybrid formalism is equivalent to the standard Markovian theory of time-continuous quantum measurement (monitoring) on the one hand and is a motivating alternative formalism on the other.
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We consider two interacting systems when one is treated classically while the other system remains quantum. Consistent dynamics of this coupling has been shown to exist, and explored in the context of treating space-time classically. Here, we prove that any such hybrid dynamics necessarily results in decoherence of the quantum system, and a breakdown in predictability in the classical phase space. We further prove that a trade-off between the rate of this decoherence and the degree of diffusion induced in the classical system is a general feature of all classical quantum dynamics; long coherence times require strong diffusion in phase-space relative to the strength of the coupling. Applying the trade-off relation to gravity, we find a relationship between the strength of gravitationally-induced decoherence versus diffusion of the metric and its conjugate momenta. This provides an experimental signature of theories in which gravity is fundamentally classical. Bounds on decoherence rates arising from current interferometry experiments, combined with precision measurements of mass, place significant restrictions on theories where Einstein's classical theory of gravity interacts with quantum matter. We find that part of the parameter space of such theories are already squeezed out, and provide figures of merit which can be used in future mass measurements and interference experiments.
We develop a Bayesian formulation of diffusive quantum-classical dynamics by treating the wave function and classical variables as components of an ordinary stochastic process. The joint probability density P(psi,x,t) obeys a classical Fokker-Planck equation, while the quantum state appears as its second moment. Requiring autonomous second-moment evolution and trace preservation, together with a full-column-rank quantum-classical noise correlation matrix, forces the ensemble dynamics into hybrid Lindblad form. The same result also determines the general class of diffusive stochastic unravelings compatible with this hybrid evolution. Notably, this construction makes positivity immediate and does not take complete positivity or an underlying unitary quantum dilation as assumptions, but instead relies on the presence of a sufficiently coupled classical sector. We formulate quantum measurement, filtering and smoothing of hybrid quantum-classical dynamics as standard Bayesian inference and show how to correlation between the quantum and classical noise fully explains the differences between quantum smoothing and smoothing in classical time series models. We recover the stochastic master equation from the Kushner-Stratonovich equation with correlated noise and show how the quantum effect operator is related to the Bayesian backward message through the adjoint dynamics of the linear unraveling. The Bayesian posterior also defines a smoothed density matrix and, more generally, a posterior distribution over latent quantum-classical trajectories. These quantities can be approximated with standard particle filtering and smoothing methods. Numerical examples show that smoothing improves reconstruction of a hidden quantum-classical trajectory and that the full trajectory posterior can retain structure, such as multimodality, that is absent from its density-matrix second moment.
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