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arXiv:hep-th/9507069

A discussion on a possibility to interpret quantum mechanics in terms of general relativity

Vu B Ho

Published Jul 12, 1995• 0 citations
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Abstract

It is shown that, with some reasonable assumptions, the theory of general relativity can be made compatible with quantum mechanics by using the field equations of general relativity to construct a Robertson-Walker metric for a quantum particle so that the line element of the particle can be transformed entirely to that of the Minkowski spacetime, which is assumed by a quantum observer, and the spacetime dynamics of the particle described by a Minkowski observer takes the form of quantum mechanics. Spacetime structure of a quantum particle may have either positive or negative curvature. However, in order to be describable using the familiar framework of quantum mechanics, the spacetime structure of a quantum particle must be "quantised" by an introduction of the imaginary number $i$. If a particle has a positive curvature then the quantisation is equivalent to turning the pseudo-Riemannian spacetime of the particle into a Riemannian spacetime. This means that it is assumed the particle is capable of measuring its temporal distance like its spatial distances. On the other hand, when a particle has a negative curvature and a negative energy density then quantising the spacetime structure of the particle is equivalent to viewing the particle as if it had a positive curvature and a positive energy density.

DOI
10.48550/arxiv.hep-th/9507069

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Phonons have the characteristic linear dispersion relation of massless relativistic particles. They arise as low-energy excitations of Bose-Einstein condensates and, in nonhomogeneous situations, are governed by a space- and time-dependent acoustic metric. We discuss how this metric can be experimentally designed to realize curved spacetime geometries, in particular, expanding Friedmann-Lema\^{\i}tre-Robertson-Walker cosmologies, with negative, vanishing, or positive spatial curvature. A nonvanishing Hubble rate can be obtained through a time-dependent scattering length of the background condensate. For relativistic quantum fields, this leads to the phenomenon of particle production, which we describe in detail. We explain how particle production and other interesting features of quantum field theory in curved spacetime can be tested in terms of experimentally accessible correlation functions.
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