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When Reference Frames Fail Themselves: Scale Limits of Physical Reference Frames from Quantum Diffusion and Self-Gravity

Paul Cooney

Published Feb 2, 2026• 0 citations
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Reference frames are typically treated as idealized background structures. In reality, clocks, rulers, gyroscopes, and optical standards are extended physical systems with finite mass, size, and internal dynamics. This paper identifies the concrete operational mechanism by which such systems cease to function as reference frames for themselves and for other systems. Two unavoidable effects compete in any extended device used to transport time and phase information: • Quantum center-of-mass diffusion, which delocalizes light systems over long interrogation times.• Gravitational self-interaction, which produces redshift gradients across sufficiently massive systems and prevents internal synchronization. While related quantum–gravitational bounds on clocks and rods were identified by Salecker–Wigner and later developed by Ng, van Dam, and others, this work shows explicitly how a reference frame fails: it loses the ability to transport coherent time and phase information across its own spatial extent. Using optical cavities as an operational model, the paper demonstrates how gravitational phase gradients become irreducible dephasing channels once unavoidable endpoint motion is accounted for. This converts a deterministic redshift gradient into stochastic phase noise and provides the physical mechanism underlying the optimal quantum–gravitational timing bound. The resulting optimal mass scale for a meter-scale, day-long reference device is macroscopic (~0.3 kg), showing that the crossover from quantum-limited to gravity-limited reference frames occurs at everyday scales of mass and size, far from Planck physics. The analysis remains entirely within standard quantum mechanics and weak-field gravity and complements quantum reference frame formalisms by identifying the regime where the assumption of internal frame coherence itself breaks down.

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10.5281/zenodo.18461842

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