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Entropy

Exploring the Thermodynamic Uncertainty Constant: Insights from a Quasi-Ideal Nano-Gas Model

Giorgio Sonnino

Published Nov 23, 2024• 3 citations
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In previous work, we investigated thermodynamic processes in systems at the mesoscopic level where traditional thermodynamic descriptions (macroscopic or microscopic) may not be fully adequate. The key result is that entropy in such systems does not change continuously, as in macroscopic systems, but rather in discrete steps characterized by the quantization constant β. This quantization reflects the underlying discrete nature of the collision process in low-dimensional systems and the essential role played by thermodynamic fluctuations at this scale. Thermodynamic variables conjugate to the forces, along with Glansdorff-Prigogine's dissipative variable can be discretized, enabling a mesoscopic-scale formulation of canonical commutation rules (CCRs). In this framework, measurements correspond to determining the eigenvalues of operators associated with key thermodynamic quantities. This work investigates the quantization parameter β in the CCRs using a nano-gas model analyzed through classical statistical physics. Our findings suggest that β is not an unknown fundamental constant. Instead, it emerges as the minimum achievable value derived from optimizing the uncertainty relation within the framework of our model. The expression for β is determined in terms of the ratio χ, which provides a dimensionless number that reflects the relative scales of volume and mass between entities at the Bohr (atomic level) and the molecular scales. This latter parameter quantifies the relative influence of quantum effects versus classical dynamics in a given scattering process.

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10.3390/e26121011

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In recent work, we have shown that fundamental quantities such as the total entropy production, the thermodynamic variables conjugate to the thermodynamic forces, and the Glansdorff-Prigogine's dissipative variable may be discretized at the mesoscopic scale. The Canonical Commutation Rules (CCRs) valid at the mesoscopic scale have been postulated and the measurement process consists of determining the eigenvalues of the operators associated with the thermodynamic quantities. The essence of that work was to analyze the consequences of these postulates. This letter aims to understand the physical nature of the new constant (beta) introduced in the CCRs. In particular, two questions are still open. Is beta a new fundamental constant? Does the constant in the CCRs correspond to the lowest limit? We shall tackle the problem starting from the simplest assumption: the expression of beta can be derived from a simple model (a heuristic model) for nano-gas and studied through the tools of classical statistical physics. We will find that the theoretical value is very close to the experimental one. We shall not go further in our interpretation; we shall limit ourselves simply by noticing that according to our model, the constant beta does not appear to be a new fundamental constant but corresponds to the minimum value.
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We had previously shown [T. Yarman et al., Results Phys. 10 (2018) 818–821] that the classical adiabatic relation pV 5/3=Constant for an ideal monatomic gas admits a direct quantum-mechanical formulation in terms of Planck’s constant and confinement-dependent quantum-state indices. This result suggests that macroscopic thermodynamic scaling laws reflect an underlying quantum-state structure. In the present work, we revisit this quantum-state scaling framework and discuss how it may provide a complementary language for thermodynamic accessibility and macroscopic irreversibility. In particular, we emphasize the conceptual distinction between microscopic reversibility, the arrow of time, and operational macroscopic irreversibility. Within this perspective, irreversibility may be interpreted in terms of asymmetries in accessible quantum-state configurations under changing confinement and energy conditions, while the underlying microscopic equations remain formally time-reversal symmetric. At the same time, the concept of operationally inaccessible microscopic quantum reconstruction, such as that with regards to fission, naturally emerges. Still, we do not claim to replace Boltzmannian, correlation-based, or information-theoretic approaches. Rather, the present study proposes a complementary quantum-state scaling perspective for discussing thermodynamic accessibility and the macroscopic evolution of complex systems. Even so, within the present framework, these practical limitations on thermodynamic accessibility do not necessitate a breakdown of formal microscopic reversibility; rather, they align with the Boltzmannian view that macroscopic reversals remain formally possible yet are rendered overwhelmingly inaccessible in practice.
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