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Journal of Physics Communications

Reply to Comment on: ‘Experimental indications of non-classical brain function’ (2022 Journal of Physics Communications 6 105001)

Christian Kerskens, David López Pérez

Published Mar 1, 2023• 4 citations
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Abstract We have recently suggested a proposal to explore non-classicality in the brain, for which we developed an entanglement witness protocol using MRI. The witness protocol intended to find spin interactions which could not be explained by classical interactions, based on intermolecular multiple quantum coherence (iMQC). As for Warren’s comments, we show in more detail that this was indeed the case; our observations were certainly not generated by interactions based on the iMQC model. Further, we discuss some additional details not present in the original paper.

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10.1088/2399-6528/acc636

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Abstract We have recently suggested a proposal to explore non-classicality in the brain, for which we developed an entanglement witness protocol using MRI. The witness protocol intended to find spin interactions which could not be explained by classical interactions, based on intermolecular multiple quantum coherence (iMQC). As for Warren’s comments, we show in more detail that this was indeed the case; our observations were certainly not generated by interactions based on the iMQC model. Further, we discuss some additional details not present in the original paper.
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In a recent paper, we vindicated a general entanglement-based witness of non-classicality in hybrid quantum systems. Our vindication refutes a counterexample to the witness, proposed by Hall and Reginatto. These authors recently commented further, claiming to expose "a huge number of errors and misconceptions" in it. However, their comment contains no refutation of our arguments, nor does it expose any error or misconception in them. But it does include a number of misconceptions about the witness of non-classicality. Here we respond to those.
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