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Time Dependent Harmonic Oscillator with a Time Dependent Force and Flux Balance

Francesco R. Ruggeri

Published Jul 11, 2019• 0 citations
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The time-dependent Schrodinger problem of an oscillator .5kx*x together with the additional potential -x f(t), where f(t) is a function of time (often periodic), has already been solved in the literature (1). The solution involves a variable transformation y= x - b(t), where b(t) is a function of time which will turn out to be related to f(t) and W(x,t)= exp(i y d/dt b(t)) Wosc( y) exp(i Eosc t) . This yields an oscillator type time dependent equation with a term q(t) Wosc(y) which can be removed by using Wosc(y) exp(i c(t)). Wosc( y) is the oscillator wavefunction with the space-time variable y and Eosc the usual oscillator energy levels. Thus, by using the variable transformation together with W(x,t)=Wosc(x)exp(iEosc t) g(x,t) (i.e. a product of factors) one can obtain an “time-independent like” Schrodinger equation in y (after performing one more transformation Wosc(y)exp(i c(t)). In a previous note (2), we argued that if one writes a wavefunction as W(x)=Wo(x)q(x), where Wo(x) is the ground state wavefunction, one obtains a time-independent Schrodinger equation for Wo(x), which contains V(x), and a second eigenvalue equation coupling Wo(x) and q(x) with an eigenvalue equal to E-Eo. In particular, it is the time flux [d/dt W(x,t)]/W(x,t) which becomes linked with q(x) and the spatial flux [d/dx W(x)]/W(x). In (3), we argued that bound state quantum mechanics contains two velocities v(x), the classical velocity and u(x)/m = [d/dx W(x)]/ W(x) and that each behave differently. For example, v(x) behaves according to Newton’s law, while u(x)/m does not (except for the oscillator ground state). In this note, we try to apply these two ideas to the case of the oscillator with the time-dependent extra potential x f(t). We see that writing W(x,t) as a product (after the variable change) leads to two sets equation, one being a time-independent like equation for the oscillator and the other linking u(x)/m to a portion of time flux [d/dt W(x,t) ]/ W(x,t) |x constant. In this case, the time flux is directly related to d/dx [W*(x,t)W(x,t)] i.e. the physical density. Thus, a change in physical density in time is related to a change in physical density in space. Thus, two physical processes, it seems, are occurring. One is the W osc (y) resonance (albeit it a strange one because y=x + b(t)) and the second flux coupling with exp(i b(t) y), part of the oscillator potential and part of the additional potential -x f(t). Given that the problem has been mathematically solved already in the literature (1), our objective is to attempt to see if there is physical meaning in terms of ideas we have presented in previous notes, namely flux, the notion of a product wavefunction leading to a separate resonance type of reaction and double resonances.

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10.5281/zenodo.3332991

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Addendum Feb. 4, 2021 In this note, a potential of .5kxx + f(t)x is considered together with a product wavefunction Wa(y,t)exp(i y db/dt) where y=x-b(t). Product wavefunctions when inserted into the Schrodinger equation lead to two equations. The first may be chosen to depend only on one product e.g. Wa. In this case, it is a harmonic oscillator Schrodinger equation with an extra c(t)Wa term which may be handled by a pure time phase i.e. exp(i Integral (0,t) c(t1)dt1)). The second equation incorporates the potentail f(t)x and involves a coupling term -1/m dWa/dy d/dy exp(i y db/dt). This term, however, is exactly canceled by a term from i d/dt (partial) Wa(y-b(t)) exp(i y db/dt) so the coupling is eliminated. Thus, one has a second differential equation in b(t) linked to the potential f(t)x or f(t)y- f(t)b(t) which is completely uncoupled. Thus, there are two decoupled types of motion. Harmonic motion in y=x-b(t) and collective motion related to b(t) linked directly to f(t). Addendum Feb. 3, 2021 The term -1/2m d/dy d/dy W1 in ((6)) is db/dt db/dt (1/2m) and is incorporated in c(t)Wo in equation ((5)). Also i d/dt (partial) {exp(i(x-b/m)db/dt) W(x-b/m)) = -i/m dW/dy db/dt +(1/m)db/dtdb/dt -yd/dt db/dt as seen in the equation directly below ((6)) on the LHS. An extra pure time piece is added i.e. +(1/m)db/dtdb/dt. The “time-independent” Schrodinger equation appears to be directly related to stochastic motion, we argue. If there is no potential, the wavefunction exp(ipx) is statistical, indicating periodic motion with a norm of one for all x. If a time-independent potential is added, it may be decomposed as V(x)=Sum over k Vk exp(ikx). Thus, time is present not just in exp(-iEt), but in the stochastic behaviour of the potential which is only V(x) on average. At each time, one does not know which Vk acts. Thus, the time-independent Schrodinger equation could perhaps be called the purely stochastic Schrodinger equation. It is possible to have a time dependent Schrodinger equation with a time dependent potential. Sometimes the time in the potential is hidden by a variable change as the equation involves partial derivatives. We try to argue that this potential contributes to collective motion. Time is already present in V(x), but in a stochastic manner. Explicit time (or a time related variable change) means a lack of stochasticity as one follows the potential in a predictable manner in time. It is possible that collective motion may be associated with a reference frame. For example, one may remove center-of-mass motion and consider only internal motion i.e. the quantum stochastic internal behaviour. In this note, we briefly examine two examples. The first is a free quantum particle viewed from a constantly accelerating frame as discussed in (1). In such a frame, the free particle appears as a particle in a gravitational potential +mgx1, but x1= x-X(t) so X(t) suggests collective motion. One may argue that x represents stochastic motion, but this is not necessarily the case because one may have collective potential energy linked to collective kinetic energy. In other words, id/dt partial W may yield a term which cancels mgx indicating that it does not act as Sum Vk exp(ikx). The second example involves a quantum oscillator with an extra xf(t) potential. We argue that this leads to collective motion as the problem may be recast in terms of a variable y=x- b(t) and solved as a “time-independent oscillator” in y as discussed in (2). Again, there exists the notion of a kind of collective motion or extra frame which leads to a phase factor exp(iy d/dt partial b(t)) as the stochastic quantum behaviour defines the physical density and the phase term exp(i phase) disappears from the density). In such a case, W(y) the time-independent oscillator solution may be written as: Sum over p a(p) exp(ipy), but y contains t so the statistical nature of exp(ipy) is somewhat altered frome exp(ipx) i.e. there is an extra time related phase exp(i p f(t)) which has the appearance of a kind of collective motion as all p values are in synch with the same f(t) which may be sin(wt) for example.
In a series of notes (1), we argued that the time-independent Schrodinger equation may be considered as a statistical conservation of average energy equation. We further argued that V(x)=Sum over k Vk exp(ikx) delivers stochastic potential hits which create a momentum distribution W(x)= Sum over p a(p) exp(ipx) at each x. The form exp(ipx) describes a free particle and a statistical distribution is made of such free particles. The form exp(ipx) has a modulus of 1 indicating that P(x)=constant. d/dx exp(ipx) = ip suggesting the change in conditional probability with space is related to classical momentum. Given a momentum distribution, each p at x occurs at a different time. Thus, one does not follow a classical particle in time x(t), nevertheless an average energy conservation equation applies. Taking the time-independent Schrodinger equation E W = -1/2m d/dx d/dx W + V(x) W and writing EW = i d/dt exp(-iEt), one obtains a time-dependent equation. We argue that if the time-independent case represents a classical conservation of average energy, the time-dependent equation should be linked to Newton’s equation of motion. This immediately leads to a problem because we argue one does not want x(t) for a statistical system. As a result, x in the time-dependent Schrodinger equation, which represented spatial position before, now represents a spatial variable that is independent of time. We consider the oscillator case and note that an amplitude is such a candidate where x(t)=XA(t). Thus, the time-dependent Schrodinger equation ultimately becomes an equation in A(t) with the amplitude cancelling, at least in the free particle and oscillator case. From such a consideration, one may work “backwards” and find a function for which the time-dependent Schrodinger equation (equating powers of X) becomes Newton’s second law. From this, one may show that exp(i Action) where Action = Integral dt1 (0,t) L where L is the classical Lagrangian is this solution with d/dX applying to X which is an amplitude, not x(t).
The oscillator propagator exp(i Action) = Q(t) exp[i mw/2 { cos(wt)/sin(wt) (XX + YY) - 2XY / sin(wt)} ] = Q(t) exp( i (-m/2 dA/dt / A) (XX +YY) - (mw/2) 2XY/A ) (where XA(t) is a classical solution with X as amplitude) is a solution of the time-dependent Schrodinger equation. Inserting the form with A(t) into the time-dependent Schrodinger equation yields Newton’s second law (with two other terms which cancel) i.e. m d/dt dA/dt = - k A(t). Newton’s second law may be multiplied by dA/dt and integrated, yielding the well-known conservation of energy equation: Energy = XX dA/dt dA/dt (m/2) + (k/2) XX AA. Thus, the two are equivalent as is known from classical mechanics. One may consider solving the time dependent Schrodinger equation in a different manner, namely postulating a separable solution of the form: exp(-i C t) H(x). Substituting into the oscillator Schrodinger equation yields C = -1/2m d/dx d/dx W + .5 k xx W. Mathematically, this equation may be solved, but only a discrete set of C values yield solutions, namely C= .5 w(n+.5) with corresponding Wn(x). We argue that this mathematical equation may be linked to a physical one, namely the conservation of energy equation if C is associated with energy. In such a case, one must associate -1/2m d/dx dW/dx with classical kinetic energy at a x. At this point, we suggest one must establish a physical interpretation for -1/2m d/dx dW/dx if W. We argue that X in exp(i Action) is an amplitude. Allowing all values of X (e.g. -1/2m d/dX d/dX) means allowing all amplitudes for a particular spring. Thus it seems that one is considering a fluctuating amplitude picture in which these fluctuations can yield an average energy associated with a particular En. This average equation follows classical mechanics in terms of average KE(x) + V(x) = En.
The time-independent Schrodinger equation: En= -1/2m [d/dx dWn/dx] / Wn(x) + V(x) ((1)) matches a classical conservation of energy equation where -1/2m [d/dx dWn/dx] / Wn(x) = KEclassical(x). In classical physics, however, one has x(t) so each x point is associated with a specific t for a given energy En. In the quantum time-independent equation, one has exp(-iEnt) as the time dependent factor and does not consider any link with x although if one is comparing ((1)) to a classical conservation equation then a link between x and t could be made to complete the analogy. This is usually not considered, but we examine this point as we argue it becomes important in the time-dependent situation. For the time-dependent Schrodinger case we consider two approaches. First, a linear combination of time independent solutions is taken i.e. W(x,t) = Sum over n an(En) exp(-iEnt) Wn(x) ((2)) Again each Wn(x) has an association with KEclassical(x) and so one may think in terms of (x,t) classical pairs for a given En. The second approach is to consider the function: exp(-iEnt + m Integral (0,x) v(y) dy) ((3)). This satisfies the time-dependent Schrodinger equation and yields a classical conservation of energy equation with v(x) being the classical velocity. Noting that En= .5m v(x)v(x) + V(x), ((3)) may be rewritten as: exp(i Integral L dt) where L = T-V is the Langrangian with T=.5mv(x)v(x). At this point En has been removed from the picture, but is replaced with: x(t)= X g(t)/g(T) ((4)) where (X,T) are a space-time pair corresponding to a particular energy E value. Using exp(i Action) ((5)) in the time-dependent Schrodinger equation yields a conservation equation which holds for a particular classical energy as long as (x,t) values in the equation are classically linked to the appropriate classical (X,T) values i.e. for a classical trajectory there is a specific family of X at time T for a given energy. For another energy, there is another family of (X,T) pairs. Thus the equation obtained represents energy conservation for many different energy values depending on which simultaneous values one uses for x and t. There is, however, no overlap as a specific (X,T) family corresponds to an energy E and another nonoverlapping family of (X,T) to another energy. This, however, is the same situation as ((2)) for which there are also families of (X,T) corresponding to each En. The only difference is that the En are quantized i.e. discrete. ((3)) and ((5)) are both solutions to the time-dependent Schrodinger equation which represent a variety of energies and families of (X,T) associated to the classical solution of the energy in question. We thus suggest that ((2)) and ((4)) are equivalent for this reason without using the idea of a complete set of basis functions represented by Wn(x). We consider these ideas as the Schrodinger propagator is given by ((5)), but with ((4)) generalized to: x(t)= Xi g(tf-t)/g(tf-ti) + Xf g(t-ti)/g(tf-ti) for the case that g(0)=0 (2) so that Xi,Xf, tf and ti enter the picture. This then should be equivalent to: Sum over n exp(-iEntf) Wn(xf) Wn* (xi) ((6)) In this note, we suggest that one may link ((5)) and ((6)) based on ideas of space-time families associated with different energies as well as the two being solutions of the time-dependent Schrodinger equation.
In classical mechanics, the spatial density d(x) of a particle moving under a conservation of energy law .5mv(x)v(x) + V(x) = E is proportional to 1/v(x). This is obtained from d(x)= dt/T, i.e. the probability to be at x equals the time spent at x divided by the cycle time T. Given that dx=vdt to first order, density is proportional to 1/v(x). Now, d(x) is supposed to match the time independent quantum mechanical density W(x)W(x), where W(x) is the wavefunction, for high energy levels. Thus, one would expect the time a p wave (plane wave) spends at a point should be part of time independent quantum mechanics, but it does not seem to be overtly present. Furthermore, there is the question of T for the quantum mechanical problem. It is known that even for a time-independent solution W(x) has a factor exp(iEt). Thus, it seems time is present, even if it disappears in the density W*(x)W(x). It is argued that W*(x)W(x) = P(x) where P is probability, but W(x) is related to conditional probabilities such as P(x/p) or P(p/x). Thus, these conditional probabilities should be related to time. In an earlier note, we tried to show the time-independent Schrodinger equation implies all p plane waves are cycling with the same frequency E. In this note, we try to find a quantum mechanical representation for P(x,p)=dt/T where dt(x,p) is the time spent at x by a plane wave p and also try to evaluate T.