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Spin and Madelüng fluid

Salesi, G

Published Jul 26, 1995• 32 citations
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Abstract

Starting from the Pauli current we obtain the decomposition of the non-relativistic local velocity in two parts: one parallel and the other orthogonal to the momentum. The former is recognized to be the ``classical'' part, that is the velocity of the center-of-mass, and the latter the ``quantum'' one, that is the velocity of the motion in the center-of-mass frame (namely, the internal ``spin motion'' or {\em Zitterbewegung}). Inserting the complete expression of the velocity into the kinetic energy term of the classical non-relativistic (i.e., Newtonian) Lagrangian, we straightforwardly derive the so-called ``quantum potential'' associated to the Madelung fluid. In such a way, the quantum mechanical behaviour of particles appears to be strictly correlated to the existence of spin and Zitterbewegung.

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Starting from the Pauli current we obtain the decomposition of the non-relativistic local velocity in two parts: one parallel and the other orthogonal to the momentum. The former is recognized to be the classical'' part, that is the velocity of the center-of-mass, and the latter the quantum'' one, that is the velocity of the motion in the center-of-mass frame (namely, the internal spin motion'' or {\em Zitterbewegung}). Inserting the complete expression of the velocity into the kinetic energy term of the classical non-relativistic (i.e., Newtonian) Lagrangian, we straightforwardly derive the so-called quantum potential'' associated to the Madelung fluid. In such a way, the quantum mechanical behaviour of particles appears to be strictly correlated to the existence of spin and Zitterbewegung.
Starting from the Pauli current we obtain the decomposition of the nonrelativistic local velocity in two parts: one parallel and the other orthogonal to the impulse. The former is recognized as the “classical” part, that is, the velocity of the center-of-mass, and the latter the “quantum” one, that is, the velocity of the motion in the center-of-mass frame (namely, the internal “spin motion” or zitterbewegung), Inserting the complete expression of the velocity into the kinetic energy term of the classical nonrelativistic (i.e. Newtonian) Lagrangian, we straightforwardly get the appearance of the so-called quantum potential associated, as it is known, to the Madelung fluid. In such a way, the quantum mechanical behavior of particles appears to be strictly correlated to the existence of spin and zitterbewegung.
In the first part (Secs. I and II) of this paper, starting from the Pauli current, we obtain the decomposition of the nonrelativistic field velocity into two orthogonal parts: (i) the ``classical'' part, that is, the velocity w=p/m\mathbf{w}=\mathbf{p}/mw=p/m in the center of mass (c.m.), and (ii) the ``quantum'' part, that is, the velocity V of the motion of the c.m. frame (namely, the internal ``spin motion'' or Zitterbewegung). By inserting such a complete, composite expression of the velocity into the kinetic-energy term of the nonrelativistic classical (i.e., Newtonian) Lagrangian, we straightforwardly get the appearance of the so-called quantum potential associated, as it is known, with the Madelung fluid. This result provides further evidence of the possibility that the quantum behavior of microsystems is a direct consequence of the fundamental existence of spin. In the second part (Secs. III and IV), we fix our attention on the total velocity v=w+V,\mathbf{v}=\mathbf{w}+\mathbf{V},v=w+V, now necessarily considering relativistic (classical) physics. We show that the proper time entering the definition of the four-velocity ${v}^{\ensuremath{\mu}}$ for spinning particles has to be the proper time \ensuremath{\tau} of the c.m. frame. Inserting the correct Lorentz factor into the definition of ${v}^{\ensuremath{\mu}}$ leads to completely different kinematical properties for v2.{v}^{2}.v2. The important constraint ${p}_{\ensuremath{\mu}}{v}^{\ensuremath{\mu}}=m,$ identically true for scalar particles but just assumed a priori in all previous spinning-particle theories, is herein derived in a self-consistent way.
In this note, we first obtain the decomposition of the non-relativistic field velocity into the classical part (i.e., the velocity w=p/m OF the center-of-mass (CM), and the so-called quantum part (i.e., the velocity V of the motion IN the CM frame (namely, the internal spin-motion or Zitterbewegung), these two parts being orthogonal. Our starting point is the Pauli current. Then, by inserting such a composite expression of the velocity into the kinetic energy term of the non-relativistic newtonian lagrangian, we get the appearance of the so-called "quantum potential" (which makes the difference between classical and quantum behaviour) as a pure consequence of the internal motion. Such a result carries further evidence about the possibility that the quantum behaviour of micro-systems be a direct consequence of the fundamental existence of spin.
Abstract It has recently been shown that relativistic quantum theory leads to a local interpretation of quantum mechanics wherein the universal wavefunction in configuration space is entirely replaced with an ensemble of local fluid equations in spacetime. For want of a fully relativistic quantum fluid treatment, we develop a model using the nonrelativistic Madelung equations, and obtain conditions for them to be local in spacetime. Every particle in the Madelung fluid is equally real, and has a definite position, momentum, kinetic energy, and potential energy. These are obtained by defining quantum momentum and kinetic energy densities for the fluid and separating the momentum into average and symmetric parts, and kinetic energy into classical kinetic and quantum potential parts. The two types of momentum naturally give rise to a single classical kinetic energy density, which contains the expected kinetic energy, even for stationary states, and we define the reduced quantum potential as the remaining part of the quantum kinetic energy density. We treat the quantum potential as a novel mode of internal energy storage within the fluid particles, which explains most of the nonclassical behavior of the Madelung fluid. For example, we show that in tunneling phenomena, the quantum potential negates the barrier so that nothing prevents the fluid from flowing through. We show how energy flows and transforms in this model, and that enabling local conservation of energy requires defining a quantum potential energy current that flows through the fluid rather than only flowing with it. The nonrelativistic treatment generally contains singularities in the velocity field, which undermines the goal of local dynamics, but we expect a proper relativistic treatment will bound the fluid particle velocities at c.
Schr\"odinger's work on the Zitterbewegung of the free electron is reexamined. His proposed "microscopic momentum" vector for the Zitterbewegung is rejected in favor of a "relative momentum" vector, with the value $\stackrel{\ensuremath{\rightarrow}}{\mathrm{P}}=mc\stackrel{\ensuremath{\rightarrow}}{\ensuremath{\alpha}}$ in the rest frame of the center of mass. His oscillatory "microscopic coordinate" vector is retained. In the rest frame, it takes the form $\stackrel{\ensuremath{\rightarrow}}{\mathrm{Q}}=\ensuremath{-}i(\frac{\ensuremath{\hbar}}{2mc})\ensuremath{\beta}\stackrel{\ensuremath{\rightarrow}}{\ensuremath{\alpha}}$, and the Zitterbewegung is described in this frame in terms of $\stackrel{\ensuremath{\rightarrow}}{\mathrm{P}}$, $\stackrel{\ensuremath{\rightarrow}}{\mathrm{Q}}$, and the Hamiltonian $m{c}^{2}\ensuremath{\beta}$, as a finite three-dimensional harmonic oscillator with a compact phase space. The Lie algebra generated by $\stackrel{\ensuremath{\rightarrow}}{\mathrm{Q}}$ and $\stackrel{\ensuremath{\rightarrow}}{\mathrm{P}}$ is that of SO(5), and in particular $[{Q}_{i},{P}_{j}]=\ensuremath{-}i\ensuremath{\hbar}{\ensuremath{\delta}}_{\mathrm{ij}}\ensuremath{\beta}$. It is argued that the simplest possible finite, three-dimensional, isotropic, quantum-mechanical system requires such an SO(5) structure, incorporates a fundamental length, and has harmonic-oscillator dynamics. Dirac's equation is derived as the wave equation appropriate to the description of such a finite quantum system in an arbitrary moving frame of reference, using a dynamical group SO(3,2) which can be extended to SO(4,2). Spin appears here as the orbital angular momentum associated with the internal system, and rest-mass energy appears as the internal energy in the rest frame. Possible generalizations of these ideas are indicated, in particular those involving higher-dimensional representations of SO(5).