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Quantum Potential and Random Phase - Space Dynamics

Czopnik, R, Piotr Garbaczewski

Published Mar 5, 2002• 6 citations
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Abstract

We investigate Euler-type local momentum conservation laws valid for various stochastic phase - space processes. The involved pressure contribution notoriously appears in a characteristic functional form $\\pm \\overrightarrow{\\nabla} [ 2d^2(t) \\frac{\\triangle \\rho ^{1/2}}{\\rho ^{1/2}}]$ which stays in close affinity with the quantum mechanical notion of the de Broglie - Bohm potential and its role in the hydrodynamical formulation of quantum dynamics.

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