Challenges
Datasets
Workspaces
Papers
Discussions
Leaderboard
Log inSign up
Challenges
Datasets
Workspaces
Papers
Discussions
Leaderboard
Blog
Job Board
Q3AS

© 2026 Aqora Quantum S.A.S.

TermsPrivacyLegal Notice

Information Transfer Implies State Collapse

Bas Janssens, Hans Maassen

Published Feb 16, 2006• 5 citations
OpenAlex

Abstract

We attempt to clarify certain puzzles concerning state collapse and decoherence. In open quantum systems decoherence is shown to be a necessary consequence of the transfer of information to the outside; we prove an upper bound for the amount of coherence which can survive such a transfer. We claim that in large closed systems decoherence has never been observed, but we will show that it is usually harmless to assume its occurrence. An independent postulate of state collapse over and above Schroedinger's equation and the probability interpretation of quantum states, is shown to be redundant.

Related papers

Information transfer implies state collapse

Bas Janssens, Hans Maassen

We attempt to clarify certain puzzles concerning state collapse. In open quantum systems decoherence is a necessary consequence of the transfer of information to the outside; we prove an upper bound for the amount of coherence which can survive such a transfer. In large closed systems decoherence is not observed, but we will show that it is usually harmless to assume its occurrence. An independent physical collapse mechanism over and above Schrödinger's equation and the probability interpretation of quantum states is therefore redundant.

arXiv:quant-ph/0602140•Journal of Physics A Mathematical and General•Jul 19, 2006•7 citations

Quantum Measurement, a coherent description

Bas Janssens

It is widely known that `collapse of the wave function' on a quantum system A may be brought about by an interaction with another quantum system B. We will prove that this is not just a possible, but a necessary consequence of information transfer from A to B. We generalize this in order to explain why coherences are normally not observed in macroscopic quantum systems. Finally, we provide a quantitative insight into the balance between information gain and state disturbance. We define the quality of an information transfer. For all information transfers of a certain quality, we find a minimum amount of state collapse. Along the way, we obtain generalizations of the Joint Measurement Theorem and of the Heisenberg Principle.

arXiv:quant-ph/0503009•Mar 1, 2005•3 citations

Information Constraints in Quantum Measurements and State Collapse

Sergey Nikolaevich Mayburov

Quantum-mechanical constraints on information transfer in measuring systems and their influence on measurement results studied. As the example, measurement of binary observable $S_z$ of object $\cal S$ by measuring apparatus $\cal A$ considered. It's shown that during the measurement these constraints obstacle the acquisition of information by $\cal A$, characterizing purity of $\cal S$ ensemble. Due to it, $\cal A$ can't discriminate pure and mixed $\cal S$ ensembles with the same $S_z$ expectation value. In algebraic measurement ansatz by Emch such information loss results in stochastic $S_z$ measurement outcomes for pure $\cal S$ ensemble, their probabilities obey to Born postulate, i.e. it corresponds to quantum state collapse. Account of $\cal A$ state decoherence doesn't change obtained results principally.

arXiv:1005.3691•May 20, 2010•0 citations

Decoherence during time evolution by Schroedinger equation

Shunichi Muto

A thought experiment is discussed to clarify the concept of decoherence. Superposition of states consisting of ground state of a single hydrogen atom and its excited state after a huge amount of time is discussed to show that the decoherence of the state, more precisely the loss of coherence, is literally the loss of ability of interference. The loss of superposition of states is just apparent or even superfacial. Applications of this example in its relation to many-world interpretation of observation of a quantum state, decoherence in usual cases, and weak collapse of wavepackets are discussed.

arXiv:1209.0261•Sep 3, 2012•0 citations

The quantum mechanics needs the principle of wave function collapse, but this principle should not be misunderstood

Sofia Wechsler

The postulate of the collapse of the wave function stands between the microscopic, quantum world, and the macroscopic world. Because of this intermediate position, the collapse process cannot be examined with the formalism of the quantum mechanics (QM), neither with that of classical mechanics. This fact makes some physicists to propose interpretations of QM, which avoid this postulate. However, the common procedure used in that, is making assumptions incompatible with the QM formalism. The present work discusses the most popular interpretations. It is shown that because of such assumptions those interpretations fail, i.e. predict for some experiments results which differ from the QM predictions. Despite of that, special attention is called to a proposal of S. Gao, the only one which addresses and tries to solve an obvious and major contradiction. A couple of theorems are proved for showing that the collapse postulate is necessary in the QM. Although nonexplainable with the quantum formalism this postulate cannot be denied, otherwise one comes to conclusions which disagree with the QM. It is also proved here that the idea of collapse at a distance is problematic especially in relativistic cases, and is a misunderstanding. Namely, in an entanglement of two quantum systems, assuming that the measurement of one of the systems (accompanied by collapse of that system on one of its states) collapses the other system too without the second system being measured, leads to a contradiction.

arXiv:2102.10000•Feb 19, 2021•0 citations

Open Quantum System dynamics: Applications to Decoherence and Collapse models

Matteo Carlesso

Quantum mechanics exhibits a broad collection of theoretical results in complete agreement with experimental evidence. Besides showing unquestionable success in the description of isolated systems, it can be also successfully used to characterize non-isolated quantum system. In such a case, phenomena like dissipation, diffusion or decoherence. The theory of open quantum systems provides the framework where such features can be conveniently explained. \nThis thesis is about decoherence and collapse models. Albeit conceptually they are very far from each other, they both belong the framework of open quantum systems. Indeed, they consider systems interacting with an external entity: an environment for decoherence models, a noise for collapse models. Although the external influence has different origin, they can be described by similar dynamical equations and, to confirm or falsify them, the same experimental tests can be performed. \nThe quantum Brownian motion model can be considered the paradigm of decoherence models. We provide an exact and analytic equation for the time evolution of the operators and we show that the corresponding equation for the states is equivalent to well-known results in the literature. Our derivation allows to compute the time evolution of physically relevant quantities in a much easier way than previous formulations. Moreover, we are not bound to compute the time evolution of the state of the system, which in general is a complicated task. The explicit dependence on the initial state appears only in the initial expectation values and not in the dynamics. This makes possible the derivation of expectation values also for nontrivial states. \nAnother decoherence model we considered is a recently proposed model, based on the mass-energy equivalence. The model describes a decoherence source acting universally on every system whose superposition is extended on positions experiencing different gravitational potentials. We studied the conditions under which this mechanism becomes the dominant decoherence effect in typical interferometric experiments. We show that current experiments are off by several orders of magnitude. New ideas are needed to achieve the necessary requirements. \nThe second part of this thesis concerns collapse models, in particular the Continuous Spontaneous Localization (CSL) model. We focus on experimental tests that can probe it. In this respect, experiments can be grouped in two classes: interferometric tests and non-interferometric ones. The first class includes those experiments, which directly create and detect quantum superpositions of the center of mass of massive systems. The strongest bounds on the CSL parameters come from the second class of non-interferometric experiments, which are sensitive to small position displacements and detect CSL-induced diffusion in position. \nWe investigate how we can benefit from the non-interferometric perspective given by optomechanical setups, which have reached high sensitivities as force and position sensors. Three examples are considered.\nFirst, we compute the upper bounds on the CSL parameters, which can be inferred by the gravitational wave detectors LIGO, LISA Pathfinder and AURIGA.\nSecond, we report new results from an experiment based on a high-quality cantilever cooled to millikelvin temperature. High accuracy measurements of the cantilever thermal fluctuations reveal a nonthermal force noise of unknown origin. This excess noise is compatible with the CSL heating predicted by Adler. Several physical mechanisms able to explain the observed noise have been ruled out.\nThird, we propose an unattempted non-interferometric test aimed to investigate the still unexplored region of the CSL parameter space. Our proposal relies on torsional degrees of freedom rather than the usual vibrational ones. We believe that the test that has been put forward here, will eventually probe the unexplored CSL parameter space.

•Feb 6, 2018•0 citations
We attempt to clarify certain puzzles concerning state collapse and decoherence. In open quantum systems decoherence is shown to be a necessary consequence of the transfer of information to the outside; we prove an upper bound for the amount of coherence which can survive such a transfer. We claim that in large closed systems decoherence has never been observed, but we will show that it is usually harmless to assume its occurrence. An independent postulate of state collapse over and above Schroedinger's equation and the probability interpretation of quantum states, is shown to be redundant.
We attempt to clarify certain puzzles concerning state collapse. In open quantum systems decoherence is a necessary consequence of the transfer of information to the outside; we prove an upper bound for the amount of coherence which can survive such a transfer. In large closed systems decoherence is not observed, but we will show that it is usually harmless to assume its occurrence. An independent physical collapse mechanism over and above Schrödinger's equation and the probability interpretation of quantum states is therefore redundant.
It is widely known that `collapse of the wave function' on a quantum system A may be brought about by an interaction with another quantum system B. We will prove that this is not just a possible, but a necessary consequence of information transfer from A to B. We generalize this in order to explain why coherences are normally not observed in macroscopic quantum systems. Finally, we provide a quantitative insight into the balance between information gain and state disturbance. We define the quality of an information transfer. For all information transfers of a certain quality, we find a minimum amount of state collapse. Along the way, we obtain generalizations of the Joint Measurement Theorem and of the Heisenberg Principle.
Quantum-mechanical constraints on information transfer in measuring systems and their influence on measurement results studied. As the example, measurement of binary observable SzS_zSz​ of object S\cal SS by measuring apparatus A\cal AA considered. It's shown that during the measurement these constraints obstacle the acquisition of information by A\cal AA, characterizing purity of S\cal SS ensemble. Due to it, A\cal AA can't discriminate pure and mixed S\cal SS ensembles with the same SzS_zSz​ expectation value. In algebraic measurement ansatz by Emch such information loss results in stochastic SzS_zSz​ measurement outcomes for pure S\cal SS ensemble, their probabilities obey to Born postulate, i.e. it corresponds to quantum state collapse. Account of A\cal AA state decoherence doesn't change obtained results principally.
A thought experiment is discussed to clarify the concept of decoherence. Superposition of states consisting of ground state of a single hydrogen atom and its excited state after a huge amount of time is discussed to show that the decoherence of the state, more precisely the loss of coherence, is literally the loss of ability of interference. The loss of superposition of states is just apparent or even superfacial. Applications of this example in its relation to many-world interpretation of observation of a quantum state, decoherence in usual cases, and weak collapse of wavepackets are discussed.
The postulate of the collapse of the wave function stands between the microscopic, quantum world, and the macroscopic world. Because of this intermediate position, the collapse process cannot be examined with the formalism of the quantum mechanics (QM), neither with that of classical mechanics. This fact makes some physicists to propose interpretations of QM, which avoid this postulate. However, the common procedure used in that, is making assumptions incompatible with the QM formalism. The present work discusses the most popular interpretations. It is shown that because of such assumptions those interpretations fail, i.e. predict for some experiments results which differ from the QM predictions. Despite of that, special attention is called to a proposal of S. Gao, the only one which addresses and tries to solve an obvious and major contradiction. A couple of theorems are proved for showing that the collapse postulate is necessary in the QM. Although nonexplainable with the quantum formalism this postulate cannot be denied, otherwise one comes to conclusions which disagree with the QM. It is also proved here that the idea of collapse at a distance is problematic especially in relativistic cases, and is a misunderstanding. Namely, in an entanglement of two quantum systems, assuming that the measurement of one of the systems (accompanied by collapse of that system on one of its states) collapses the other system too without the second system being measured, leads to a contradiction.
Quantum mechanics exhibits a broad collection of theoretical results in complete agreement with experimental evidence. Besides showing unquestionable success in the description of isolated systems, it can be also successfully used to characterize non-isolated quantum system. In such a case, phenomena like dissipation, diffusion or decoherence. The theory of open quantum systems provides the framework where such features can be conveniently explained. \nThis thesis is about decoherence and collapse models. Albeit conceptually they are very far from each other, they both belong the framework of open quantum systems. Indeed, they consider systems interacting with an external entity: an environment for decoherence models, a noise for collapse models. Although the external influence has different origin, they can be described by similar dynamical equations and, to confirm or falsify them, the same experimental tests can be performed. \nThe quantum Brownian motion model can be considered the paradigm of decoherence models. We provide an exact and analytic equation for the time evolution of the operators and we show that the corresponding equation for the states is equivalent to well-known results in the literature. Our derivation allows to compute the time evolution of physically relevant quantities in a much easier way than previous formulations. Moreover, we are not bound to compute the time evolution of the state of the system, which in general is a complicated task. The explicit dependence on the initial state appears only in the initial expectation values and not in the dynamics. This makes possible the derivation of expectation values also for nontrivial states. \nAnother decoherence model we considered is a recently proposed model, based on the mass-energy equivalence. The model describes a decoherence source acting universally on every system whose superposition is extended on positions experiencing different gravitational potentials. We studied the conditions under which this mechanism becomes the dominant decoherence effect in typical interferometric experiments. We show that current experiments are off by several orders of magnitude. New ideas are needed to achieve the necessary requirements. \nThe second part of this thesis concerns collapse models, in particular the Continuous Spontaneous Localization (CSL) model. We focus on experimental tests that can probe it. In this respect, experiments can be grouped in two classes: interferometric tests and non-interferometric ones. The first class includes those experiments, which directly create and detect quantum superpositions of the center of mass of massive systems. The strongest bounds on the CSL parameters come from the second class of non-interferometric experiments, which are sensitive to small position displacements and detect CSL-induced diffusion in position. \nWe investigate how we can benefit from the non-interferometric perspective given by optomechanical setups, which have reached high sensitivities as force and position sensors. Three examples are considered.\nFirst, we compute the upper bounds on the CSL parameters, which can be inferred by the gravitational wave detectors LIGO, LISA Pathfinder and AURIGA.\nSecond, we report new results from an experiment based on a high-quality cantilever cooled to millikelvin temperature. High accuracy measurements of the cantilever thermal fluctuations reveal a nonthermal force noise of unknown origin. This excess noise is compatible with the CSL heating predicted by Adler. Several physical mechanisms able to explain the observed noise have been ruled out.\nThird, we propose an unattempted non-interferometric test aimed to investigate the still unexplored region of the CSL parameter space. Our proposal relies on torsional degrees of freedom rather than the usual vibrational ones. We believe that the test that has been put forward here, will eventually probe the unexplored CSL parameter space.