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arXiv:2603.12927 · APS Open Science

Inaccurate (weak) measurements classical and quantum

D. Sokolovski, D. Alonso, S. Brouard

quant-phSubmitted Mar 13, 2026• Announced Mar 16, 2026• 0 citations
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Abstract

We consider highly inaccurate measurements made on classical stochastic and quantum systems. In the quantum case such a \e{weak} measurement preserves coherence between the system's alternatives. We demonstrate that in both cases the information about the scenario realised in each individual trial is lost. However, ensemble parameters such as classical path probabilities, and quantum quasi-probabilities can be extracted from the obtained statistics. In both cases causality ensures that additional post-selection only redistributes individual outcomes between the system's final states. Quantum quasi-probabilities may change sign, which allows for anomalously large meter's (pointer's) reading for some final states. These, we show, result from mere \e{reshaping} of a broad distribution obtained earlier, and provide no \e{experimental evidence} of quantum variables taking, on rare occasions, exceptionally large values.

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The Uncertainty Principle forbids one to determine which of the two paths a quantum system has travelled, unless interference between the alternatives had been destroyed by a measuring device, e.g., by a pointer. One can try to weaken the coupling between the device and the system in order to avoid the veto. We demonstrate, however, that a weak pointer is at the same time an inaccurate one, and the information about the path taken by the system in each individual trial is inevitably lost. We show also that a similar problem occurs if a classical system is monitored by an inaccurate quantum meter. In both cases, one can still determine some characteristic of the corresponding statistical ensemble, a relation between path probabilities in the classical case, and a relation between the probability amplitudes if a quantum system is involved.
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Suppose we make a series of measurements on a chosen quantum system. The outcomes of the measurements form a sequence of random events, which occur in a particular order. The system, together with a meter or meters, can be seen as following the paths of a stochastic network connecting all possible outcomes. The paths are shaped from the virtual paths of the system, and the corresponding probabilities are determined by the measuring devices employed. If the measurements are highly accurate, the virtual paths become “real”, and the mean values of a quantity (a functional) are directly related to the frequencies with which the paths are traveled. If the measurements are highly inaccurate, the mean (weak) values are expressed in terms of the relative probabilities’ amplitudes. For pre- and post-selected systems they are bound to take arbitrary values, depending on the chosen transition. This is a direct consequence of the uncertainty principle, which forbids one from distinguishing between interfering alternatives, while leaving the interference between them intact.
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