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arXiv:2603.07674

Comment on "On the emergence of preferred structures in quantum theory" by Soulas, Franzmann, and Di Biagio

Ovidiu Cristinel Stoica

quant-phhep-thmath-phphysics.hist-phSubmitted Mar 8, 2026• Announced Mar 10, 2026• 0 citations
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This reply is also a friendly introduction to the impossibility of emergence of preferred structures from the Hamiltonian $\mathsf{H}$ and the unit vector $|ψ\rangle$ only. The obstructions to emergence are illustrated on the concrete construction of a tensor product structure (TPS) from Soulas et al., 2025 (arXiv:2512.07468v2). Soulas et al. offer their TPS as a counterexample to the proof from Stoica, 2022a (arXiv:2102.08620) that structures constructed only from $\mathsf{H}$ and $|ψ\rangle$ either contradict physical observations or can't describe them unambiguously. Soulas et al.'s construction of a unique TPS can't be both invariant and compatible with physical observations, so it can't be a counterexample. Its incompatibility becomes visible by examining how the relation between $|ψ(t)\rangle$ and the TPS, encoding the entanglement, changes in time. Therefore their TPS doesn't refute, but confirms (Stoica, 2022a). Besides this, since Soulas et al.'s method to construct preferred structures consists of choosing their invariants, by the same logic one could claim as well that the masses of elementary particles emerge uniquely just by fixing their values by hand. Soulas et al.'s construction is concrete and can illustrate the major obstructions for emergent structures, confirming them despite doing the best possible to avoid them. This makes it an excellent pedagogical tool to illustrate the trilemma, but also the relational and structural aspects of quantum theory and its symmetries.

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This reply is also a friendly introduction to the impossibility of emergence of preferred structures from the Hamiltonian H\mathsf{H}H and the unit vector ∣ψ⟩|ψ\rangle∣ψ⟩ only. The obstructions to emergence are illustrated on the concrete construction of a tensor product structure (TPS) from Soulas et al., 2025 (arXiv:2512.07468v2). Soulas et al. offer their TPS as a counterexample to the proof from Stoica, 2022a (arXiv:2102.08620) that structures constructed only from H\mathsf{H}H and ∣ψ⟩|ψ\rangle∣ψ⟩ either contradict physical observations or can't describe them unambiguously.
Soulas et al.'s construction of a unique TPS can't be both invariant and compatible with physical observations, so it can't be a counterexample. Its incompatibility becomes visible by examining how the relation between ∣ψ(t)⟩|ψ(t)\rangle∣ψ(t)⟩ and the TPS, encoding the entanglement, changes in time. Therefore their TPS doesn't refute, but confirms (Stoica, 2022a).
Besides this, since Soulas et al.'s method to construct preferred structures consists of choosing their invariants, by the same logic one could claim as well that the masses of elementary particles emerge uniquely just by fixing their values by hand.
Soulas et al.'s construction is concrete and can illustrate the major obstructions for emergent structures, confirming them despite doing the best possible to avoid them. This makes it an excellent pedagogical tool to illustrate the trilemma, but also the relational and structural aspects of quantum theory and its symmetries.
We assess the possibilities offered by Hilbert space fundamentalism, an attitude towards quantum physics according to which all physical structures (e.g. subsystems, locality, spacetime, preferred observables) should emerge from minimal quantum ingredients (typically a Hilbert space, Hamiltonian, and state). As a case study, we first mainly focus on the specific question of whether the Hamiltonian can uniquely determine a tensor product structure, a crucial challenge in the growing field of quantum mereology. The present paper reviews, clarifies, and critically examines two apparently conflicting theorems by Cotler et al. and Stoica. We resolve the tension, show how the former has been widely misinterpreted and why the latter is correct only in some weaker version. We then propose a correct mathematical way to address the general problem of preferred structures in quantum theory, relative to the characterization of emergent objects by unitary-invariant properties. Finally, we apply this formalism in the particular case we started with, and show that a Hamiltonian and a state are enough structure to uniquely select a preferred tensor product structure.
The quantum world is described by a unit vector in the Hilbert space and the Hamiltonian. Do these abstract basis-independent objects give a complete description of the physical world, or should we include observables like positions and momenta and the decomposition into subsystems? According to "Hilbert-space fundamentalism" they give a complete description, and all other features of the physical world emerge from them (Carroll, arXiv:2103.09780). Here I will give a concrete refutation of this thesis based on the symmetries of the theory of quantum measurements. These results show that even if a tensor product structure is assumed along with the unit vector and the Hamiltonian, concrete physically distinct worlds can be described by the same structures.