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arXiv:2406.14642 · Physical review. D/Physical review. D.

Measuring time in a timeless universe

Samuel Kuypers, Simone Rijavec

Published Aug 24, 2025• 6 citations
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Abstract

Physical systems are usually assumed to evolve relative to an external time parameter, which is problematic because in quantum theory that parameter is not a physical observable. Page and Wootters (1984) solved this by proposing that the Universe is in a stationary state, eliminating the need for the external time parameter. Instead, their model contains an isolated subsystem, a clock, with which other subsystems are entangled, making the latter appear to evolve relative to different states of the clock. While this resolves the problem of the time parameter, the assumption that the clock is isolated prevents it from being measured, as this requires an interaction with another system. We prove that the clock can be measured while preserving the core features of the Page-Wootters construction. We also discuss clock synchronization.

DOI
10.1103/qfns-48vq

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Physical systems are usually assumed to evolve relative to an external time parameter, which is problematic because in quantum theory that parameter is not a physical observable. Page and Wootters (1984) solved this by proposing that the Universe is in a stationary state, eliminating the need for the external time parameter. Instead, their model contains an isolated subsystem, a clock, with which other subsystems are entangled, making the latter appear to evolve relative to different states of the clock. While this resolves the problem of the time parameter, the assumption that the clock is isolated prevents it from being measured, as this requires an interaction with another system. We prove that the clock can be measured while preserving the core features of the Page-Wootters construction. We also discuss clock synchronization.
In quantum theory it is possible to explain time, and dynamics, in terms of entanglement. This is the timeless approach to time, which assumes that the universe is in a stationary state, where two noninteracting subsystems, the ``clock'' and the ``rest,'' are entangled. As a consequence, by choosing a suitable observable of the clock, the relative state of the rest of the universe evolves unitarily with respect to the variable labeling the clock observable's eigenstates, which is then interpreted as time. This model for an ``evolution without evolution'' (Page and Wootters, 1983), albeit elegant, has never been developed further, because it was criticized for generating severe ambiguities in the dynamics of the rest of the universe. In this paper we show that there are no such ambiguities; we also update the model, making it amenable to possible new applications.
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In previous years several theoretical papers discussed if time can be an emergent property deriving from quantum correlations. Here, to provide insight into how this phenomenon can occur, we present an experiment that illustrates Page and Wootters' mechanism of ``static'' time [D. N. Page and W. K. Wootters, Phys. Rev. D 27, 2885 (1983)], and Gambini et al. for subsequent refinements [R. Gambini et al., Phys. Rev. D 79, 041501(R) (2009)]. A static, entangled state between a clock system and the rest of the universe is perceived as evolving by internal observers that test the correlations between the two subsystems. We implement this mechanism using an entangled state of the polarization of two photons, one of which is used as a clock to gauge the evolution of the second: An ``internal'' observer that becomes correlated with the clock photon sees the other system evolve, while an ``external'' observer that only observes global properties of the two photons can prove it is static.
Time in quantum mechanics is peculiar: it is an observable that cannot be associated to an Hermitian operator. As a consequence it is impossible to explain dynamics in an isolated system without invoking an external classical clock, a fact that becomes particularly problematic in the context of quantum gravity. An unconventional solution was pioneered by Page and Wootters (PaW) in 1983. PaW showed that dynamics can be an emergent property of the entanglement between two subsystems of a static Universe. In this work we first investigate the possibility to introduce in this framework a Hermitian time operator complement of a clock Hamiltonian having an equally-spaced energy spectrum. An Hermitian operator complement of such Hamiltonian was introduced by Pegg in 1998, who named it "Age". We show here that Age, when introduced in the PaW context, can be interpreted as a proper Hermitian time operator conjugate to a "good" clock Hamiltonian. We therefore show that, still following Pegg's formalism, it is possible to introduce in the PaW framework bounded clock Hamiltonians with an unequally-spaced energy spectrum with rational energy ratios. In this case time is described by a POVM and we demonstrate that Pegg's POVM states provide a consistent dynamical evolution of the system even if they are not orthogonal, and therefore partially un-distinguishables.