Challenges
Datasets
Workspaces
Papers
Discussions
Leaderboard
Log inSign up
Challenges
Datasets
Workspaces
Papers
Discussions
Leaderboard
Blog
Job Board
Q3AS

© 2026 Aqora Quantum S.A.S.

TermsPrivacyLegal Notice

arXiv:2305.08556 · European Journal of Physics

On a paradox in quantum mechanics and its resolution

Padtarapan Banyadsin, Salvatore De Vincenzo

Published May 31, 2023• 0 citations
arXivHTMLPDF

Abstract

Abstract Consider a free Schrödinger particle inside an interval with walls characterized by the Dirichlet boundary condition. Choose a parabola as the normalized state of the particle that satisfies this boundary condition. To calculate the variance of the Hamiltonian in that state, one needs to calculate the mean value of the Hamiltonian and that of its square. If one uses the standard formula to calculate these mean values, one obtains both results without difficulty, but the variance unexpectedly takes an imaginary value. If one uses the same expression to calculate these mean values but first writes the Hamiltonian and its square in terms of their respective eigenfunctions and eigenvalues, one obtains the same result as above for the mean value of the Hamiltonian but a different value for its square (in fact, it is not zero); hence, the variance takes an acceptable value. From whence do these contradictory results arise? The latter paradox has been presented in the literature as an example of a problem that can only be properly solved by making use of certain fundamental concepts within the general theory of linear operators in Hilbert spaces. Here, we carefully review those concepts and apply them in a detailed way to resolve the paradox. Our results are formulated within the natural framework of wave mechanics, and to avoid inconveniences that the use of Dirac’s symbolic formalism could bring, we avoid the use of that formalism throughout the article. In addition, we obtain a resolution of the paradox in an entirely formal way without addressing the restrictions imposed by the domains of the operators involved. We think that the content of this paper will be useful to undergraduate and graduate students as well as to their instructors.

DOI
10.1088/1361-6404/acda69

Related papers

Complex eigenvalues in Kuryshkin-Wodkiewicz quantum mechanics

Alexander V. Zorin, Mikhail D. Malykh, Leonid A. Sevastianov

One of the possible versions of quantum mechanics, known as Kuryshkin-Wodkiewicz quantum mechanics, is considered. In this version, the quantum distribution function is positive, but, as a retribution for this, the von Neumann quantization rule is replaced by a more complicated rule, in which an observed value AA is associated with a pseudodifferential operator O^(A){\hat{O}(A)}. This version is an example of a dissipative quantum system and, therefore, it was expected that the eigenvalues of the Hamiltonian should have imaginary parts. However, the discrete spectrum of the Hamiltonian of a hydrogen-like atom in this theory turned out to be real-valued. In this paper, we propose the following explanation for this paradox. It is traditionally assumed that in some state ψ{\psi} the quantity AA is equal to λ{\lambda} if ψ{\psi} is an eigenfunction of the operator O^(A){\hat{O}(A)}. In this case, the variance O^((A-λ)2)ψ{\hat{O}((A-\lambda)2)\psi} is zero in the standard version of quantum mechanics, but nonzero in Kuryshkins mechanics. Therefore, it is possible to consider such a range of values and states corresponding to them for which the variance O^((A-λ)2){\hat{O}((A-\lambda)2)} is zero. The spectrum of the quadratic pencil O^(A2)-2O^(A)λ+λ2E^{\hat{O}(A2)-2\hat{O}(A)\lambda + \lambda 2 \hat{E}} is studied by the methods of perturbation theory under the assumption of small variance D^(A)=O^(A2)-O^(A)2{\hat{D}(A) = \hat{O}(A2) - \hat{O}(A) 2} of the observable AA. It is shown that in the neighborhood of the real eigenvalue λ{\lambda} of the operator O^(A){\hat{O}(A)}, there are two eigenvalues of the operator pencil, which differ in the first order of perturbation theory by ±i⟨D^⟩{\pm i \sqrt{\langle \hat{D} \rangle}}.

Вестник Российского университета дружбы народов. Серия: Математика, информатика, физика•May 3, 2022•0 citations

Mathematical surprises and Dirac's formalism in quantum mechanics

François Gieres B

By a series of simple examples, we illustrate how the lack of mathematical concern can readily lead to surprising mathematical contradictions in wave mechanics. The basic mathematical notions allowing for a precise formulation of the theory are then summarized and it is shown how they lead to an elucidation and deeper understanding of the aforementioned problems. After stressing the equivalence between wave mechanics and the other formulations of quantum mechanics, i.e. matrix mechanics and Dirac's abstract Hilbert space formulation, we devote the second part of our paper to the latter approach: we discuss the problems and shortcomings of this formalism as well as those of the bra and ket notation introduced by Dirac in this context. In conclusion, we indicate how all of these problems can be solved or at least avoided. Dedicated to the memory of Tanguy Altherr (1963-94). I dedicate these notes to the memory of Tanguy Altherr who left us very unexpectedly in the mountains which he loved so much (and where I had some pleasant trips with him). As to the subject of these notes (which I had the pleasure to discuss with him), Tanguy greatly appreciated Dirac's formalism and certainly knew how to apply it to real physical problems (such as the ones he worked on with an impressive enthusiasm, energy and productivity). Even if he did not share my preoccupations in this field, he liked to discuss the problems related to the general formalism of quantum physics.

arXiv:quant-ph/9907069•Reports on Progress in Physics•Nov 3, 2000•85 citations

Against Krips' Resolution of Two Paradoxes in Quantum Mechanics

Clifford Alan Hooker

Once upon a time the well-known paradoxes of quantum mechanics (one might even say the “traditional” paradoxes of quantum mechanics!—I refer here to paradoxes such as the Schrödinger cat and the Einstein-Podolsky-Rosen Paradox) seemed especially difficult because of the rather bizarre behavior of the wave packet under the von Neumann theory of measurement, to which behavior these paradoxical situations seemed to draw especial attention. Quite recently quantum theoretical accounts of the measurement process have been appearing which sidestep direct reference to such things as “contraction” of the wave packet (see, for example, Krips and Jauch). With this development it has become increasingly popular to take a “cool” approach to these paradoxes, arguing that the new approach to measurement provides a consistent, nonbizarre account of the physical situations and that the paradoxicality was due largely to intuitive blunders—even plausible intuitive blunders—accentuated (but also disguised) by the unfortunate features of the von Neumann approach to measurement. Both Krips and Jauch, for example, adopt this approach.

Philosophy of Science•Sep 1, 1971•3 citations

Operators and bilinear densities in the Dirac formal 1D Ehrenfest theorem

Salvatore De Vincenzo

We calculate formal time derivatives of the mean values of the standard position, velocity, and mechanical momentum operators, i. e., the Ehrenfest theorem for a one-dimensional Dirac particle in the coordinate representation.We show that these derivatives contain boundary terms that essentially depend on the values taken there by characteristic bilinear densities.We do not automatically take the boundary terms to vanish (as is usually done); nevertheless, we relate the boundary terms to similar terms that must be zero if one requires the hermiticity of certain specific unbounded operators.Throughout the article, we thoroughly discuss and illustrate all these aspects, which include the relations to certain boundary conditions.To clarify, we call our approach formal because all operations involving operators (for example, some operators products) are performed without respecting the restrictions imposed by the sets of functions on which the self-adjoint operators can act.Moreover, the Dirac Hamiltonian that we consider in our calculations contains a potential that is the time component of a Lorentz two-vector; nevertheless, we also obtain and concisely discuss the Ehrenfest theorem for a Hamiltonian with the most general Lorentz potential in (1+1) dimensions.

Journal of Physical Studies•Jan 1, 2015•7 citations

Schrodinger Equation from Fokker-Planck Equation and Contradiction Due To Interference? Part II

Francesco R. Ruggeri

Classical mechanics traces a particle’s movement through space and time through x(t). For example, one may consider the case of a particle moving at constant speed (momentum p) in one direction or a particle bouncing back and forth at constant speed in a box. These problems are described in time and have direction and position associated with time etc. It is possible to define a probability P(x,t) in the classical picture based on delta time, the amount of time a particle spends in a little region of space dx. P(x,t), by itself, loses much relevant information present in the x(t) scenario because a particle moving to the right, or to the left, or bouncing back and forth all have the same probability, 1/L, where L is length. Furthermore, this probability is the same for all p (momentum) values. Thus a probability description, without extra information, is a subset of the relevant information in the problem. As a result, to describe the classical picture fully, one might say that a particle has a probability of 1/L, but also a mass mo and velocity +v (i.e. momentum mov nonrelativistically). For the particle bouncing back and forth in a box with constant p, one needs to give the initial position at time=0 and then a subsequent time (as well as the initial velocity and mo) in order to fully describe the problem, even though probability = 1/L. In the literature (see (1)), there have been many attempts to derive the quantum Schrodinger equation from a classical Fockker-Planck equation or a continuity equation (which follows from the Fokker-Planck equation as shown in (1)). The continuity equation contains a probability P(x,t) and a velocity(x,t) and is generally argued to represent classical physics. It does, if one retains appropriate classical conditions such as the discontinuity of density for a particle in a box (i.e. density=0 outside the box, but 1/L inside) and the notion of differing directions within the box. In fact, one may write density=W*(x,t)W(x,t) where W(x,t) is an ad hoc complex function and still retain compatibility with classical physics. If one does not, however, retain the classical conditions completely, nonclassical physics is introduced, even if density(x,t)=1/L. For example, in quantum mechanics density(x) is considered to be continuous in all x. Thus for a particle moving in a box, density outside the box is 0 so at the box wall it must also be 0. In the classical case, the density is 1 inside the box and 0 outside. There is a discontinuity classically and this cannot be changed and this contradicts the quantum mechanical picture. Thus quantum mechanics does not follow form classical Fokker-Planck or continuity equations which retain classical conditions.. Furthermore, because time is completely removed in the FP-continuity approach as applied to quantum mechanics, one cannot distinguish between forwards and backwards motion. As seen by the velocity field given in (1), v is zero for a bound particle which completely removes the sense of time and violates the classical physics conditions. It is, however, not zero for a particle moving in one direction. Thus there seems to be no issue in describing a Fokker-Planck-continuity equation as describing classical physics. One may even introduce density(x,t)= W*(x,t)W(x,t) provided one retains classical conditions allowing for discontinuity in density and different W(x,t) values at different times i.e. a discontinuity in W(x,t) at a box wall. If these conditions, however, are not met, then one no longer describes classical physics, but a new kind of physics (quantum physics). Thus one cannot argue that quantum mechanics follows from classical statistical Fokker-Planck-continuity equations. It may follow from these if one adds a set of extra conditions. Given these extra conditions, however, one could derive quantum mechanics without starting with classical density.

•Apr 24, 2023•0 citations

Constructing the Hamiltonian for a free 1D KFGM particle in an interval

Techapon Kampu, Salvatore De Vincenzo

We analyze the problem of a free 1D Klein-Fock-Gordon-Majorana (KFGM) particle in an interval. By free, we mean that there is no potential within the interval and that its walls are penetrable; hence, the pertinent energy current density does not vanish at the walls. Certainly, quantization in an interval is not trivial because certain restrictions imposed by the domains of the operators involved arise. Here, our objective is to obtain the Hamiltonian for these particles. In practice, the Feshbach-Villars (FV)--free Hamiltonian is the proper operator for characterizing them and is a function of the momentum operator. Additionally, a Majorana condition must also be imposed on the wavefunctions on which these two operators can act. Thus, we start by calculating the pseudo self-adjoint momentum operator. A three-parameter set of boundary conditions (BCs) constitutes its domain. Up to this point, the domain of the Hamiltonian is induced by the domain of the momentum operator; however, we ensure that only the BCs for which the energy current density has the same value at each end of the interval are in its domain. All these BCs essentially belong to a one-parameter set of BCs. Moreover, because the FV equation is invariant under the operation of parity, the parity-transformed wavefunction is also a solution of this equation, which further restricts the domain of the free FV Hamiltonian. Finally, knowing the most general three-parameter set of BCs for the pseudo self-adjoint FV Hamiltonian for a 1D KFGM particle in an interval, we find that only two BCs can remain within the domain of the FV--free Hamiltonian: the periodic BC and the antiperiodic BC. These BCs are satisfied by both the two-component FV wavefunction, with these components being related, and the one-component KFG wavefunction, which can be real or imaginary.

quant-pharXiv:2601.12739•Jan 20, 2026
Abstract Consider a free Schrödinger particle inside an interval with walls characterized by the Dirichlet boundary condition. Choose a parabola as the normalized state of the particle that satisfies this boundary condition. To calculate the variance of the Hamiltonian in that state, one needs to calculate the mean value of the Hamiltonian and that of its square. If one uses the standard formula to calculate these mean values, one obtains both results without difficulty, but the variance unexpectedly takes an imaginary value. If one uses the same expression to calculate these mean values but first writes the Hamiltonian and its square in terms of their respective eigenfunctions and eigenvalues, one obtains the same result as above for the mean value of the Hamiltonian but a different value for its square (in fact, it is not zero); hence, the variance takes an acceptable value. From whence do these contradictory results arise? The latter paradox has been presented in the literature as an example of a problem that can only be properly solved by making use of certain fundamental concepts within the general theory of linear operators in Hilbert spaces. Here, we carefully review those concepts and apply them in a detailed way to resolve the paradox. Our results are formulated within the natural framework of wave mechanics, and to avoid inconveniences that the use of Dirac’s symbolic formalism could bring, we avoid the use of that formalism throughout the article. In addition, we obtain a resolution of the paradox in an entirely formal way without addressing the restrictions imposed by the domains of the operators involved. We think that the content of this paper will be useful to undergraduate and graduate students as well as to their instructors.
One of the possible versions of quantum mechanics, known as Kuryshkin-Wodkiewicz quantum mechanics, is considered. In this version, the quantum distribution function is positive, but, as a retribution for this, the von Neumann quantization rule is replaced by a more complicated rule, in which an observed value AA is associated with a pseudodifferential operator O^(A){\hat{O}(A)}. This version is an example of a dissipative quantum system and, therefore, it was expected that the eigenvalues of the Hamiltonian should have imaginary parts. However, the discrete spectrum of the Hamiltonian of a hydrogen-like atom in this theory turned out to be real-valued. In this paper, we propose the following explanation for this paradox. It is traditionally assumed that in some state ψ{\psi} the quantity AA is equal to λ{\lambda} if ψ{\psi} is an eigenfunction of the operator O^(A){\hat{O}(A)}. In this case, the variance O^((A-λ)2)ψ{\hat{O}((A-\lambda)2)\psi} is zero in the standard version of quantum mechanics, but nonzero in Kuryshkins mechanics. Therefore, it is possible to consider such a range of values and states corresponding to them for which the variance O^((A-λ)2){\hat{O}((A-\lambda)2)} is zero. The spectrum of the quadratic pencil O^(A2)-2O^(A)λ+λ2E^{\hat{O}(A2)-2\hat{O}(A)\lambda + \lambda 2 \hat{E}} is studied by the methods of perturbation theory under the assumption of small variance D^(A)=O^(A2)-O^(A)2{\hat{D}(A) = \hat{O}(A2) - \hat{O}(A) 2} of the observable AA. It is shown that in the neighborhood of the real eigenvalue λ{\lambda} of the operator O^(A){\hat{O}(A)}, there are two eigenvalues of the operator pencil, which differ in the first order of perturbation theory by ±i⟨D^⟩{\pm i \sqrt{\langle \hat{D} \rangle}}.
By a series of simple examples, we illustrate how the lack of mathematical concern can readily lead to surprising mathematical contradictions in wave mechanics. The basic mathematical notions allowing for a precise formulation of the theory are then summarized and it is shown how they lead to an elucidation and deeper understanding of the aforementioned problems. After stressing the equivalence between wave mechanics and the other formulations of quantum mechanics, i.e. matrix mechanics and Dirac's abstract Hilbert space formulation, we devote the second part of our paper to the latter approach: we discuss the problems and shortcomings of this formalism as well as those of the bra and ket notation introduced by Dirac in this context. In conclusion, we indicate how all of these problems can be solved or at least avoided. Dedicated to the memory of Tanguy Altherr (1963-94). I dedicate these notes to the memory of Tanguy Altherr who left us very unexpectedly in the mountains which he loved so much (and where I had some pleasant trips with him). As to the subject of these notes (which I had the pleasure to discuss with him), Tanguy greatly appreciated Dirac's formalism and certainly knew how to apply it to real physical problems (such as the ones he worked on with an impressive enthusiasm, energy and productivity). Even if he did not share my preoccupations in this field, he liked to discuss the problems related to the general formalism of quantum physics.
Once upon a time the well-known paradoxes of quantum mechanics (one might even say the “traditional” paradoxes of quantum mechanics!—I refer here to paradoxes such as the Schrödinger cat and the Einstein-Podolsky-Rosen Paradox) seemed especially difficult because of the rather bizarre behavior of the wave packet under the von Neumann theory of measurement, to which behavior these paradoxical situations seemed to draw especial attention. Quite recently quantum theoretical accounts of the measurement process have been appearing which sidestep direct reference to such things as “contraction” of the wave packet (see, for example, Krips and Jauch). With this development it has become increasingly popular to take a “cool” approach to these paradoxes, arguing that the new approach to measurement provides a consistent, nonbizarre account of the physical situations and that the paradoxicality was due largely to intuitive blunders—even plausible intuitive blunders—accentuated (but also disguised) by the unfortunate features of the von Neumann approach to measurement. Both Krips and Jauch, for example, adopt this approach.
We calculate formal time derivatives of the mean values of the standard position, velocity, and mechanical momentum operators, i. e., the Ehrenfest theorem for a one-dimensional Dirac particle in the coordinate representation.We show that these derivatives contain boundary terms that essentially depend on the values taken there by characteristic bilinear densities.We do not automatically take the boundary terms to vanish (as is usually done); nevertheless, we relate the boundary terms to similar terms that must be zero if one requires the hermiticity of certain specific unbounded operators.Throughout the article, we thoroughly discuss and illustrate all these aspects, which include the relations to certain boundary conditions.To clarify, we call our approach formal because all operations involving operators (for example, some operators products) are performed without respecting the restrictions imposed by the sets of functions on which the self-adjoint operators can act.Moreover, the Dirac Hamiltonian that we consider in our calculations contains a potential that is the time component of a Lorentz two-vector; nevertheless, we also obtain and concisely discuss the Ehrenfest theorem for a Hamiltonian with the most general Lorentz potential in (1+1) dimensions.
Classical mechanics traces a particle’s movement through space and time through x(t). For example, one may consider the case of a particle moving at constant speed (momentum p) in one direction or a particle bouncing back and forth at constant speed in a box. These problems are described in time and have direction and position associated with time etc. It is possible to define a probability P(x,t) in the classical picture based on delta time, the amount of time a particle spends in a little region of space dx. P(x,t), by itself, loses much relevant information present in the x(t) scenario because a particle moving to the right, or to the left, or bouncing back and forth all have the same probability, 1/L, where L is length. Furthermore, this probability is the same for all p (momentum) values. Thus a probability description, without extra information, is a subset of the relevant information in the problem. As a result, to describe the classical picture fully, one might say that a particle has a probability of 1/L, but also a mass mo and velocity +v (i.e. momentum mov nonrelativistically). For the particle bouncing back and forth in a box with constant p, one needs to give the initial position at time=0 and then a subsequent time (as well as the initial velocity and mo) in order to fully describe the problem, even though probability = 1/L. In the literature (see (1)), there have been many attempts to derive the quantum Schrodinger equation from a classical Fockker-Planck equation or a continuity equation (which follows from the Fokker-Planck equation as shown in (1)). The continuity equation contains a probability P(x,t) and a velocity(x,t) and is generally argued to represent classical physics. It does, if one retains appropriate classical conditions such as the discontinuity of density for a particle in a box (i.e. density=0 outside the box, but 1/L inside) and the notion of differing directions within the box. In fact, one may write density=W*(x,t)W(x,t) where W(x,t) is an ad hoc complex function and still retain compatibility with classical physics. If one does not, however, retain the classical conditions completely, nonclassical physics is introduced, even if density(x,t)=1/L. For example, in quantum mechanics density(x) is considered to be continuous in all x. Thus for a particle moving in a box, density outside the box is 0 so at the box wall it must also be 0. In the classical case, the density is 1 inside the box and 0 outside. There is a discontinuity classically and this cannot be changed and this contradicts the quantum mechanical picture. Thus quantum mechanics does not follow form classical Fokker-Planck or continuity equations which retain classical conditions.. Furthermore, because time is completely removed in the FP-continuity approach as applied to quantum mechanics, one cannot distinguish between forwards and backwards motion. As seen by the velocity field given in (1), v is zero for a bound particle which completely removes the sense of time and violates the classical physics conditions. It is, however, not zero for a particle moving in one direction. Thus there seems to be no issue in describing a Fokker-Planck-continuity equation as describing classical physics. One may even introduce density(x,t)= W*(x,t)W(x,t) provided one retains classical conditions allowing for discontinuity in density and different W(x,t) values at different times i.e. a discontinuity in W(x,t) at a box wall. If these conditions, however, are not met, then one no longer describes classical physics, but a new kind of physics (quantum physics). Thus one cannot argue that quantum mechanics follows from classical statistical Fokker-Planck-continuity equations. It may follow from these if one adds a set of extra conditions. Given these extra conditions, however, one could derive quantum mechanics without starting with classical density.
We analyze the problem of a free 1D Klein-Fock-Gordon-Majorana (KFGM) particle in an interval. By free, we mean that there is no potential within the interval and that its walls are penetrable; hence, the pertinent energy current density does not vanish at the walls. Certainly, quantization in an interval is not trivial because certain restrictions imposed by the domains of the operators involved arise. Here, our objective is to obtain the Hamiltonian for these particles. In practice, the Feshbach-Villars (FV)--free Hamiltonian is the proper operator for characterizing them and is a function of the momentum operator. Additionally, a Majorana condition must also be imposed on the wavefunctions on which these two operators can act. Thus, we start by calculating the pseudo self-adjoint momentum operator. A three-parameter set of boundary conditions (BCs) constitutes its domain. Up to this point, the domain of the Hamiltonian is induced by the domain of the momentum operator; however, we ensure that only the BCs for which the energy current density has the same value at each end of the interval are in its domain. All these BCs essentially belong to a one-parameter set of BCs. Moreover, because the FV equation is invariant under the operation of parity, the parity-transformed wavefunction is also a solution of this equation, which further restricts the domain of the free FV Hamiltonian. Finally, knowing the most general three-parameter set of BCs for the pseudo self-adjoint FV Hamiltonian for a 1D KFGM particle in an interval, we find that only two BCs can remain within the domain of the FV--free Hamiltonian: the periodic BC and the antiperiodic BC. These BCs are satisfied by both the two-component FV wavefunction, with these components being related, and the one-component KFG wavefunction, which can be real or imaginary.