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arXiv:1502.02841

Reading QBism: A Reply to Nauenberg

Christopher A. Fuchs, N. David Mermin, Ruediger Schack

Published Feb 10, 2015• 5 citations
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This is a reply to Michael Nauenberg's arXiv:1502.00123, to be published in the American Journal of Physics, in which he comments critically on our paper "An introduction to QBism with an application to the locality of quantum mechanics", Am. J. Phys. 82, 749--754 (2014) and arXiv:1311.5253.
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10.48550/arxiv.1502.02841

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