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arXiv:1305.0949

Ideal quantum clocks and operator time

Walter Gessner

Published May 4, 2013• 2 citations
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Abstract

In the framework of any quantum theory in the Schroedinger picture a general operator time concept is given. For this purpose certain systems are emphasized as ideal quantum clocks. Their definition follows heuristically from a common property of ideal clocks and from general postulates of traditional quantum theory. Any such ideal quantum clock allows the definition of a symmetric time operator T. T and the Hamiltonian H necessarily satisfy the time-energy uncertainty relation. The argument of Pauli against the existence of any time operator does not strike, because T is symmetric but not selfadjoint.

DOI
10.48550/arxiv.1305.0949

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In the framework of any quantum theory in the Schroedinger picture a general operator time concept is given. For this purpose certain systems are emphasized as ideal quantum clocks. Their definition follows heuristically from a common property of ideal clocks and from general postulates of traditional quantum theory. Any such ideal quantum clock allows the definition of a symmetric time operator T. T and the Hamiltonian H necessarily satisfy the time-energy uncertainty relation. The argument of Pauli against the existence of any time operator does not strike, because T is symmetric but not selfadjoint.
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Unlike classical mechanics, quantum mechanics assumes the famous Heisenberg uncertainty relations. One of these concerns time: the energy–time uncertainty relation. Unlike the canonical position–momentum uncertainty relation, the energy–time relation is not reflected in the operator formalism of quantum theory. Indeed, it is often said and taken as problematic that there is not a so-called “time operator” in quantum theory. This chapter sheds light on these questions and others, including the absorbing matter of whether quantum mechanics allows for the existence of ideal clocks. The second section notes that quantum mechanics does not involve a special problem for time, and that there is no fundamental asymmetry between space and time in quantum mechanics over and above the asymmetry which already exists in classical physics. The third section studies time operators in detail. The fourth section discusses various uncertainty relations involving time.
We discuss the problem of time in quantum mechanics. In the traditional formulation time enters the model as a parameter, not an observable, which follows from the famous Pauli theorem. It is now known, that Pauli's assumptions were too strong and that by removing some of them time can be represented as a quantum observable. In this case, instead of the unitary time evolution, other operators which map the space of initial states into the space of final states at each step of the evolution can be used. This allows to treat time as a quantum observable in a consistent way. We present the projection evolution model and show how the traditional Schroedinger evolution can be obtained from it. We propose the form of the time operator which satisfies the energy-time uncertainty relation. As an example, we discuss the temporal version of the double-slit experiment.
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