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arXiv:quant-ph/0205053

A Realistic Deterministic Quantum Theory Using Borelian-Normal Numbers

T. N. Palmer

Published May 10, 2002• 1 citation
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Abstract

The elements of a deterministic quantum theory are developed, which reformulates and extends standard quantum theory. The proposed theory is `realistic' in the sense that in it, a general M-level quantum state is represented by a single real number r. Surprising as it may seem, this real number is shown to contain the same probabilistic information as the standard Hilbert-space state, plus additional information from which measurement outcome is determined. A crucial concept in achieving this is that of Borelian (number-theoretic) normality. The essential role of complex numbers in standard quantum theory is subsumed by the action of a set of self-similar permutation operators on the digits and places of the base-M expansion of a base-M Borelian-normal r; these permutation operators are shown to have complex structure and leave invariant the normality of the underlying real number. The set of real numbers generated by these permutations defines not only the Hilbert space of standard quantum theory, but also, in addition, the sample space from which quantum measurement outcomes can be objectively determined. Dynamical real-number state reduction is precisely described by deterministic number-theoretic operators that reduce the degree of normality of r; from the degree of normality one can infer the standard quantum-theoretic trace rule for measurement probability. All the foundational difficulties of standard quantum theory are described in terms of the proposed theory. It is shown that the real-number states of the proposed theory are precisely its beables.

DOI
10.48550/arxiv.quant-ph/0205053

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The elements of a deterministic quantum theory are developed, which reformulates and extends standard quantum theory. The proposed theory is `realistic' in the sense that in it, a general M-level quantum state is represented by a single real number r. Surprising as it may seem, this real number is shown to contain the same probabilistic information as the standard Hilbert-space state, plus additional information from which measurement outcome is determined. A crucial concept in achieving this is that of Borelian (number-theoretic) normality. The essential role of complex numbers in standard quantum theory is subsumed by the action of a set of self-similar permutation operators on the digits and places of the base-M expansion of a base-M Borelian-normal r; these permutation operators are shown to have complex structure and leave invariant the normality of the underlying real number. The set of real numbers generated by these permutations defines not only the Hilbert space of standard quantum theory, but also, in addition, the sample space from which quantum measurement outcomes can be objectively determined. Dynamical real-number state reduction is precisely described by deterministic number-theoretic operators that reduce the degree of normality of r; from the degree of normality one can infer the standard quantum-theoretic trace rule for measurement probability. All the foundational difficulties of standard quantum theory are described in terms of the proposed theory. It is shown that the real-number states of the proposed theory are precisely its beables.
It is shown that in two-state quantum theory, a generic quantum state can be described by a non-computable real number. In terms of this, the criterion for measurement outcome is simply and deterministically defined. This demonstration is based on a construction of the Riemann sphere whose points represent, not complex numbers, but divergent sequences with bivalent elements. Complex structure arises from self-similar properties of a set of operators which generate these sequences. In general, a rotation of (the coordinates of) the sphere maps a computable real to a non-computable real. This is interpreted physically as a mapping of a physically-measurable state to a counterfactual state. Implications for non-locality, null measurements, many worlds and so on, are discussed. The possible role of the Euler equation as the counterpart of the Schrodinger equation for real-number quantum state evolution is also outlined.
It is suggested that the long–standing conceptual difficulties of quantum theory (the measurement problem and associated concept of probability on the one hand and the notions of entanglement and non–locality on the other) arise fundamentally from the role played by the continuum field C of complex numbers in the axioms of standard quantum theory. An alternative representation of the 2Nth roots of unity is developed, based on a self–similar family P of permutation operators, acting on the digits and places of the binary expansion of a real number r0, generically Borel normal. Based on r0 and P, an analytically irregular real–valued function 0≤ r < 1 is constructed on S2, which plays the role of the Riemann sphere. As a result of its irregularity (or, equivalently, granularity), r is only uniquely definable on a countable set of (‘rational’) meridians of S2. P is further generalized to describe permutation–operator representations of the quaternions, from which transformations of r under rotations of the sphere can be defined.Using P, a proposal for a constructive realistic deterministic single–world quantum theory is given. The ‘realistic’ roots–of–unity permutation operator encodes the apparent stochasticity of the complex phase function riEt/ħ in the standard quantum theoretic wave function; similarly, the quaternionic permutations encode ‘realistically’ the spatial entanglement relationships in the wave function. Based on this formalism, finite samples of values of r on the rational meridians are used to define a frequentist–based probability measure consistent with quantum–theoretic probability and correlation. The granularity of r is crucial in accounting for the theory's evasion of the Bell inequalities. Standard quantum phenomena are discussed from the perspective of the proposed theory. Some emphasis is given to the issues of contextuality and non–locality in the proposed theory.
Abstract Although complex numbers are essential in mathematics, they are not needed to describe physical experiments, as those are expressed in terms of probabilities, hence real numbers. Physics, however, aims to explain, rather than describe, experiments through theories. Although most theories of physics are based on real numbers, quantum theory was the first to be formulated in terms of operators acting on complex Hilbert spaces 1,2 . This has puzzled countless physicists, including the fathers of the theory, for whom a real version of quantum theory, in terms of real operators, seemed much more natural 3 . In fact, previous studies have shown that such a ‘real quantum theory’ can reproduce the outcomes of any multipartite experiment, as long as the parts share arbitrary real quantum states 4 . Here we investigate whether complex numbers are actually needed in the quantum formalism. We show this to be case by proving that real and complex Hilbert-space formulations of quantum theory make different predictions in network scenarios comprising independent states and measurements. This allows us to devise a Bell-like experiment, the successful realization of which would disprove real quantum theory, in the same way as standard Bell experiments disproved local physics.
We introduce a realist, unextravagant interpretation of quantum theory that builds on the existing physical structure of the theory and allows experiments to have definite outcomes, but leaves the theory's basic dynamical content essentially intact. Much as classical systems have specific states that evolve along definite trajectories through configuration spaces, the traditional formulation of quantum theory asserts that closed quantum systems have specific states that evolve unitarily along definite trajectories through Hilbert spaces, and our interpretation extends this intuitive picture of states and Hilbert-space trajectories to the case of open quantum systems as well. We provide independent justification for the partial-trace operation for density matrices, reformulate wave-function collapse in terms of an underlying interpolating dynamics, derive the Born rule from deeper principles, resolve several open questions regarding ontological stability and dynamics, address a number of familiar no-go theorems, and argue that our interpretation is ultimately compatible with Lorentz invariance. Along the way, we also investigate a number of unexplored features of quantum theory, including an interesting geometrical structure---which we call subsystem space---that we believe merits further study. We include an appendix that briefly reviews the traditional Copenhagen interpretation and the measurement problem of quantum theory, as well as the instrumentalist approach and a collection of foundational theorems not otherwise discussed in the main text.
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