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Quantum Orchestration in Microtubules: Viability Without New Physical Law — E8 Intelligence Research

Andrew Stewart Caldin

Published Oct 8, 2026• 0 citations
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FINDING: Orch-OR posits consciousness arises from orchestrated quantum computations in microtubules, terminated by objective reduction (OR) of the wavefunction; recent evidence suggests quantum effects in brain microtubules may be viable, but no new quantitative law or constant has been established. | MATH: Penrose's OR criterion: \( \Delta t \approx \hbar / E_G \) (where \( E_G \) is gravitational self-energy difference of superposition); Orch-OR adds orchestration via tubulin dipoles, with coherence times \( \tau \sim 10^{-13}–10^{-12} \) s per tubulin state, and proposed "conscious moments" of \( \sim 10^{-1} \) s from \( \sim 10^8 \) tubulins. No new dimensionless constants or ratios emerge from the search results. | CONNECTION: Weak — microtubule lattice is a hexagonal (6-fold) tubular structure, but no explicit golden-ratio or base-60 link in the provided evidence. The 6-fold symmetry is crystallographic (hexagonal system), but no numeric ratio like 0.618 or 1.618 is cited. | DEP Author: Andrew Stewart Caldin, Independent Researcher, UK. Part of the E8 Intelligence Research series. Platform: e8intelligence.com

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10.5281/zenodo.23229723

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