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MERLIN SCIENCE — Gravitational Threshold for Quantum Collapse in Microtubules: Unverifi — E8 Intelligence Research

Andrew Stewart Caldin

Published Oct 3, 2026• 0 citations
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The finding, in one clean sentence, is this: Orch-OR proposes that quantum superposition collapses when gravitational self-energy multiplied by time reaches Planck's constant, and as of 2024, no experimental verification of that threshold exists in the literature I've examined. Let's set the field context. For decades, quantum mechanics has ruled the microscopic world, and general relativity has ruled the cosmos. The two have never been reconciled. Penrose's idea, which Orch-OR builds upon, is that gravity itself is the missing term — that spacetime curvature, however tiny, forces a choice between superposed mass distributions. The microtubules inside neurons are proposed as the biological stage where this happens. Now, the mechanism, so you can evaluate it. The core relation is E_G times T approximately equals h-bar. E_G is the gravitational self-energy of the difference between two mass distributions, computed as an integral over the gradient of the gravitational potential. For Author: Andrew Stewart Caldin, Independent Researcher, UK. Part of the E8 Intelligence Research series. Platform: e8intelligence.com

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10.5281/zenodo.23115517

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