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YouTube Summaries Dominate Orch-OR Search Results, No New Peer-Reviewed Math (2025–2026) — E8 Intelligence Research

Andrew Stewart Caldin

Published Sep 29, 2026• 0 citations
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FINDING: Search results are dominated by popular YouTube summaries and conference reviews of the Penrose–Hameroff Orch-OR model, with no new peer-reviewed mathematical evidence from 2025–2026; the only arXiv item is an unrelated AI competition report. | MATH: No new equations, constants, or ratios extracted from the provided sources; Orch-OR core math remains: quantum superposition in microtubules, objective reduction (OR) threshold \( E_\Delta \approx \hbar / T \) (where \( T \) is coherence time), and orchestrated collapse via gravitational self-energy \( E_G \approx \frac{G m^2}{r} \) per tubulin dimer. | CONNECTION: Orch-OR historically invokes Penrose's tiling/root-system geometry (E8-like symmetries in microtubule lattices) and golden-ratio-related frequency ratios in tubulin vibrations (~10^9 Hz), but the provided sources do not substantiate these with new data. | DEPTH: 2 — the findings are media summaries, not primary research; no novel mathematical content is presented. The o Author: Andrew Stewart Caldin, Independent Researcher, UK. Part of the E8 Intelligence Research series. Platform: e8intelligence.com

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10.5281/zenodo.23031149

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