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MERLIN SCIENCE — Quantum Coherence in Posner Molecules: Symmetry Breaking Undermines Co — E8 Intelligence Research

Andrew Stewart Caldin

Published Aug 25, 2026• 0 citations
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Here is the narration for the 'MERLIN SCIENCE' video. --- The finding is simple, and it's a no. Posner molecules do not host long-lived nuclear spin qubits for consciousness, because the dynamical ensemble is not symmetric. The claim of quantum coherence in these calcium phosphate clusters fails under realistic molecular tumbling. For context, the field of quantum biology has been chasing a specific dream. The idea that nuclear spins on phosphorus can act as qubits, protected for hundreds of seconds, and that this could underpin a quantum link to consciousness. That idea rests on a very specific assumption: that the six phosphate groups in the molecule behave identically. You need a perfect permutation symmetry, an S₆ symmetry, to keep the Hilbert space at its full dimension of sixty-four. That is the only way the decoherence is suppressed. The mechanism is where the dream dies. In a crystal, you might have a trigonal prismatic arrangement with D₃h symmetry. You get nice sixty-degr Author: Andrew Stewart Caldin, Independent Researcher, UK. Part of the E8 Intelligence Research series. Platform: e8intelligence.com

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10.5281/zenodo.22090422

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