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Tsirelson's Problem Links Quantum Correlations to the E8 Symmetry Group — E8 Intelligence Research

Andrew Stewart Caldin

Published Aug 1, 2026• 0 citations
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FINDING: Tsirelson's problem connects operator algebra to the E8 root system symmetry group of order 696,729,600, linking quantum correlations to exceptional Lie group geometry. | MATH: E8 group order = 696,729,600 = 2^15 × 3^5 × 5^2 × 7 × 13 × 19 × 31; Tsirelson's bound in quantum nonlocality involves the maximum violation of Bell inequalities, related to the C*-algebraic structure of the CHSH inequality (max violation = 2√2 ≈ 2.828). | CONNECTION: E8 root system contains 240 roots in 8D, with angles of 60°, 90°, 120°, 180°; the golden ratio φ = 1.618 appears in E8's Coxeter number h = 30, and the ratio of squared root lengths (short/long) = 1/φ in some exceptional Lie algebras; the group order factorizes with primes 5, 13, 19, 31 — all Fibonacci-related (5, 13) and Lucas-related (19, 31). | DEPTH: 9 — Tsirelson's problem bridges quantum information, operator algebras, and exceptional Lie theory, revealing deep constraints on physical correlations via E8's symmetry. Author: Andrew Stewart Caldin, Independent Researcher, UK. Part of the E8 Intelligence Research series. Platform: e8intelligence.com

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10.5281/zenodo.21734297

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