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A Coherence Connection on Fisher–Rao Probability Geometry

Barker Christian

Published Jun 6, 2026• 0 citations
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A mathematically explicit extension of quantum hydrodynamics is developed in which a scalar coherence field ΦG modifies phase transport and is driven by the information-geometric structure of the probability density together with probability transport itself. The construction starts from the Madelung representation Ψ = √ρ eiS/ℏ, augments the phase gradient by the covariant shift ∇S ↦ ∇S − αℏ∇ΦG, and defines the dynamics through a variational (ρ, S) sector together with a dissipative Onsager-type relaxation law for ΦG. This yields a closed PDE system consisting of a continuity equation, a modified Hamilton–Jacobi equation, and a coherence-field equation that reduces in the overdamped limit to an elliptic closure. The source of ΦG is neither bare mass density nor bare probability density: it is a local Fisher-information density together with probability transport, so that ΦG measures coherence demand. The field equations are written explicitly; the coupling sign is fixed by an energy-stability argument, the transport-forcing sign by a dissipation argument, and the induced coherence-pressure term is computed exactly. A structural no-signalling condition is obtained by restricting the nonlinearity to Fisher-marginal source functionals that are blind to the entanglement Fisher excess under marginalisation. A coarse-grained Yukawa sector is shown to admit a conditional Newtonian limit under explicitly stated screening and additivity assumptions; this remains a conjectural macroscopic regime rather than a completed derivation of gravity. The paper closes with a falsifiable numerical programme—ablation studies, dispersion diagnostics, Fisher-information monitoring, and an explicit pilot solver scaffold—together with a claim-status ledger, a testability map, and a development roadmap that separate what is defined, what is derived, what is heuristic, and what remains unproven. Keywords: quantum hydrodynamics; Fisher–Rao geometry; Madelung dynamics; coherence field; no-signalling; information geometry.

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10.5281/zenodo.20564144

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