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Study on Uncertainty Relations as a Consequence of the Lorentz Transformations

VADIM N. MATVEEV, Oleg V. Matvejev

Published Aug 11, 2021• 0 citations
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A macroscopic object equipped with synchronized clocks is examined. General physical relations are directly derived from Lorentz transformations for the case of one-dimensional motion (along the X axis) – the uncertainty relation of the object's x coordinate and the projection of its impulse along the X axis, px, and the uncertainty relation of the object's observation time, t, and its energy, E. The relations take the form: \(\Delta\)px\(\Delta\)x \(\ge\) H and \(\Delta\)E\(\Delta\)t \(\ge\) H. The H value in the relation has action dimensions and is dependent upon the precision of the rod's clocks and its mass. It is shown that if the macroscopic object in and of itself performs the function of an ideal physical clock, the relations derived in the limiting case then take the form of \(\Delta\)px\(\Delta\)x \(\ge\) h and \(\Delta\)E\(\Delta\)t \(\ge\) h, where h is the Planck constant.

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10.9734/bpi/nvst/v1/4061f

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In previous notes (1) we discussed how (p=0, E=mocc,) (x=0, to) transforms to p’, E’, x’,t’ such that x’/t’=v. We noted that (x=0, to) is a special (x,t) vector linked to a stationary frame. We noted that a general vector (x,t) = (0,t) + (x,0) and that (x,0) Lorentz transforms such that the Lorentz invariantt -Et+px =0. We also noted that E scales t and p scales x and argued that this was the basis for the frequency and wavelength for a quantum free particle. In this note we investigate this idea further. In particular we argue that given -Et+px, it is not only the case that (x,0) transforms into (x1,t1) such that -E’x1+p’t1=0, but that 1/E=t and 1/p=x also yields -E 1/E + p/p=0. In other words there is freedom in both t and x proportional to 1/E and 1/p even though the special vector (0,to) defines the velocity i.e. x’/t’=v. This freedom may be associated with uncertainty in position and time even though there is a well defined x’/t’=v. This uncertainty has important consequences if interactions occur i.e. interference effects.These are usually associated with a wave which has the dispersion relationship E=pv, but we argue that they also hold for a particle with rest mass i.e p=E(v) v because it is the uncertainty in t and x which keeps -Et+px=0 which is the source. This also happens to hold for a photon which is a wave in the sense that it has no rest mass.The uncertainty itself yields the velocity i.e. x/t = 1/p / (1/E) = E/p = c. Given the periodic nature of -E 1/E + p 1/p=0 i.e. -E n/E + p/p = 0 where n=1,2,3… we argue that a periodic function be sought such that it describes a kind of probability due to uncertainty in x,t, but this uncertainty disappears when t=n/E and x=n/p.
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