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Short title: Relation Hamiltonian - wave equation and non-spreading wave packets

Mayeul Arminjon

Published Jan 1, 1999• 0 citations
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Abstract

According to Schrodinger's ideas, classical dynamics of point particles should correspond to the « geometrical optics » limit of a linear wave equation, in just the same way as ray optics is the limit of wave optics. It is shown that the « geometrical optics » analogy leads to the correspondence between a classical Hamiltonian H and a linear wave equation in a natural and general way. In particular, the correspondence is unambiguous also in the case where H contains mixed terms involving momentum and position. This is obtained through a theory of the dispersion relations, which leads to properly define the group velocity and to enlighten its role. Using this latter notion, it is shown that, for a quite general class of potentials, « momentum states » can be defined in a physically more satisfying way than by assuming plane waves. These momentum states are solutions of the time-dependent Schrodinger equation and their amplitude functions move rigidly on a well-defined trajectory. In the case of a spatially uniform force field, such momentum states must have a singularity and the trajectory is defined by Newton's second law in the given force field.

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According to Schrodinger's ideas, classical dynamics of point particles should correspond to the « geometrical optics » limit of a linear wave equation, in just the same way as ray optics is the limit of wave optics. It is shown that the « geometrical optics » analogy leads to the correspondence between a classical Hamiltonian H and a linear wave equation in a natural and general way. In particular, the correspondence is unambiguous also in the case where H contains mixed terms involving momentum and position. This is obtained through a theory of the dispersion relations, which leads to properly define the group velocity and to enlighten its role. Using this latter notion, it is shown that, for a quite general class of potentials, « momentum states » can be defined in a physically more satisfying way than by assuming plane waves. These momentum states are solutions of the time-dependent Schrodinger equation and their amplitude functions move rigidly on a well-defined trajectory. In the case of a spatially uniform force field, such momentum states must have a singularity and the trajectory is defined by Newton's second law in the given force field.
According to Schrödinger's ideas, classical dynamics of point particles should correspond to the « geometrical optics » limit of a linear wave equation, in just the same way as ray optics is the limit of wave optics. It is shown that the « geometrical optics » analogy leads to the correspondence between a classical Hamiltonian H and a linear wave equation in a natural and general way. In particular, the correspondence is unambiguous also in the case where H contains mixed terms involving momentum and position. This is obtained through a theory of the dispersion relations, which leads to properly define the group velocity and to enlighten its role. Using this latter notion, it is shown that, for a quite general class of potentials, « momentum states » can be defined in a physically more satisfying way than by assuming plane waves. These momentum states are solutions of the time-dependent Schrödinger equation and their amplitude functions move rigidly on a well-defined trajectory. In the case of a spatially uniform force field, such momentum states must have a singularity and the trajectory is defined by Newton's second law in the given force field.
According to Schroedinger's ideas, classical dynamics of point particles should correspond to the " geometrical optics " limit of a linear wave equation, in the same way as ray optics is the limit of wave optics. It is shown that, using notions of modern wave theory, the " geometrical optics " analogy leads to the correspondence between a classical Hamiltonian H and a " quantum " wave equation in a natural and general way. In particular, the correspondence is unambiguous also in the case where H contains mixed terms involving momentum and position. In the line of Schroedinger's ideas, it is also attempted to justify the occurrence, in QM, of eigenvalues problems, not merely for energy, but also for momentum. It is shown that the wave functions of pure momentum states can be defined in a physically more satisfying way than by assuming plane waves. In the case of a spatially uniform force field, such momentum states have a singularity and move undeformed according to Newton's second law. The mentioned unambiguous correspondence allows to uniquely extend the Klein-Gordon relativistic wave equation to the case where a constant gravitational field is present. It is argued that Schroedinger's wave mechanics can be extended to the case with a variable gravitational field only if one accepts that the wave equation is a preferred-frame one. From this viewpoint, generally-covariant extensions of the wave equations of QM seem rather formal. Finally, it is conjectured that there is no need for a quantum gravity.
In a previous paper, we showed that the Hamilton equations of motion of a quantum particle are obtained as group velocities of the wave packet describing this particle only if the time dependent phase of a particle wave is proportional to the Lagrangian, not to the Hamiltonian as in a solution of the conventional Schrodinger equation. When a Lagrangian of relativistic form is considered, the wave packet of a quantum particle takes a physical form, with a finite spectrum of a cut off velocity (c). Based on a relativistic quantum principle, asserting the invariance of the time dependent phase for an arbitrary change of coordinates, we obtained the relativistic kinematics and dynamics, the electromagnetic field equations, the spin and the electromagnetic and gravitational interactions. When the Lagrangian is considered as a function of the Hamiltonian, we obtain a Schrodinger type equation with an additional term depending on the velocity and the momentum operator. 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On the other hand, one could find that the simplest way to define a quantum particle is by a wave packet, with momenta conjugated to coordinates and energy conjugated to time Consider a quantum particle as a wave packet, and find that the group velocities in the coordinate and momentum spaces are in agreement with the Hamilton equations only when the Lagrangian is considered in the time dependent phases, instead of the Hamiltonian in the conventional forms of these waves as solutions of the Schrodinger equation. We define a relativistic quantum principle, and derive a wave equation for a relativistic quantum particle, the relativistic kinematics and dynamics of the particle waves, the Maxwell equations and the Lorentz force of a field interacting with the particle waves, the relativistic transform of such a field, and the spin as a characteristic of the particle waves. We consider a quantum particle as a distribution of conservative matter propagating according to the General Theory of Relativity. We obtain the dynamics of this matter in a gravitational field, the propagation in plane waves perpendicular to geodesic tracks, and equations of conservation. We describe the matter dynamics as a positively defined density and show that, according to the general theory of relativity, such a distribution can be conceive only as of a fragment of matter with a finite mass equal to a mass , as a characteristic of the matter dynamics, – the matter quantization. The group velocities of the Fourier conjugate representations in the coordinate and momentum spaces describe the dynamics of a quantum particle in agreement with the Hamiltonian equations. 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The starting point of this research is a representation of a quantum particle according to the Schrodinger equation of the conventional quantum mechanics. In this representation, a quantum particle is described by a wave packet in the coordinate space and the conjugated wave packet in the momentum space. The problem is that while in the coordinate space the group velocity is in agreement with one of the Hamilton equations, the group velocity in the momentum space is in contradiction with the other Hamilton equation - a minus sign is missing. Group velocities in agreement with the Hamilton equations are obtained only when in the time dependent phase of a quantum particle wave packet, instead of the Hamiltonian coming from the conventional Schrodinger equation, the Lagrangian is considered. This suggests us to consider the relativistic Lagrangian in the time dependent phase. In this way, the conventional relativistic principle of invariance of the time-space interval gets the more physically understandable form of the invariance of the time dependent phase of a quantum particle - the time dependent phase of a quantum particle is the same in any system of coordinates. Based on the relativistic time dependent phase invariance of a quantum particle, from the group velocities of this particle the relativistic kinematics and dynamics are obtained. The interaction with an electromagnetic field is described by a modification of the time dependent phase with a scalar potential conjugated to time and a vector potential conjugated to the space coordinates. In this paper, we find that, according to the formalism of the general relativity, any matter element in a field of forces is accelerated only perpendicularly to its velocity. This means that the matter propagation of a quantum particle can be conceived in planes perpendicular to velocity, while the mater distribution can be considered in a Fourier representation - quantum waves. We study the quantum particle dynamics in gravitational waves and derive the graviton spin. We consider a quantum particle in electromagnetic field and obtain a Schrödinger-Dirac-type equation, with additional terms describing the velocity dependence of the particle dynamics.
Abstract The two‐dimensional paraxial equation of optics and the two‐dimensional time‐dependent Schrödinger equation, derived as approximations of the three‐dimensional Helmholtz equation and the three‐dimensional time‐independent Schrödinger equation, respectively, are identical. Here the free propagation in space and time of Hermite–Gauss wave packets (optics) or harmonic oscillator eigenfunctions (quantum mechanics) is examined in detail. The Gouy phase is shown to be a dynamic phase, appearing as the integral of the adiabatic eigenfrequency or eigenenergy. The wave packets propagate adiabatically in that at each space or time point they are solutions of the instantaneous harmonic problem. In both cases, it is shown that the form of the wave function is unchanged along the loci of the normals to wave fronts. This invariance along such trajectories is connected to the propagation of the invariant amplitude of the corresponding free wave number (optics) or momentum (quantum mechanics) wave packets. It is shown that the van Vleck classical density of trajectories function appears in the wave function amplitude over the complete trajectory. A transformation to the co‐moving frame along a trajectory gives a constant wave function multiplied by a simple energy or frequency phase factor. The Gouy phase becomes the proper time in this frame. Key Points This paper builds a bridge between quantum mechanics (QM) and classical optics in that the identity of the paraxial equation of optics and the Schrödinger equation of QM is shown, the Bohmian trajectories of QM are defined in optics, the Gouy phase of optics is defined in QM and given a new interpretation and The space and momentum wave functions are equivalent along a trajectory.
The indeterministic character of physical laws is generally considered to be the most important consequence of quantum physics. A deterministic point of view, however, together with the possibility of well defined Hamiltonian trajectories, emerges as the most natural one from the analysis of the timeindependent Helmholtz-like equations encountered both in Classical Electromagnetism and in Wave Mechanics. In the former case the rays of a beam are described, for any set of boundary conditions, by an exact approach avoiding the geometrical optics approximation; in the latter case the same pattern of lines is shown to provide the trajectories of a quantum particle beam, and to correspond to a set of deterministic dynamical laws containing the classical ones as a simple limiting case. Paper available at: http://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/0706/0706.3102.pdf