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SIAM Journal on Computing

The Symmetric Group Defies Strong Fourier Sampling

Cristopher Moore, Alexander C. Russell, Leonard J. Schulman

Published Jan 1, 2008• 29 citations
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Abstract

The dramatic exponential speedups of quantum algorithms over their best existing classical counterparts were ushered in by the technique of Fourier sampling, introduced by Bernstein and Vazirani and developed by Simon and Shor into an approach to the hidden subgroup problem. This approach has proved successful for abelian groups, leading to efficient algorithms for factoring, extracting discrete logarithms, and other number-theoretic problems. We show, however, that this method cannot resolve the hidden subgroup problem in the symmetric groups, even in the weakest, information-theoretic sense. In particular, we show that the Graph Isomorphism problem cannot be solved by this approach. Our work implies that any quantum approach based upon the measurement of coset states must depart from the original framework by using entangled measurements on multiple coset states.

DOI
10.1137/050644896

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The dramatic exponential speedups of quantum algorithms over their best existing classical counterparts were ushered in by the technique of Fourier sampling, introduced by Bernstein and Vazirani and developed by Simon and Shor into an approach to the hidden subgroup problem. This approach has proved successful for abelian groups, leading to efficient algorithms for factoring, extracting discrete logarithms, and other number-theoretic problems. We show, however, that this method cannot resolve the hidden subgroup problem in the symmetric groups, even in the weakest, information-theoretic sense. In particular, we show that the Graph Isomorphism problem cannot be solved by this approach. Our work implies that any quantum approach based upon the measurement of coset states must depart from the original framework by using entangled measurements on multiple coset states.
We resolve the question of whether Fourier sampling can efficiently solve the hidden subgroup problem in general groups. Specifically, we show that the hidden subgroup problem in the symmetric group cannot be efficiently solved by strong Fourier sampling. Indeed we prove the stronger statement that no measurement of a single coset state can reveal more than an exponentially small amount of information about the identity of the hidden subgroup, in the special case relevant to the graph isomorphism problem.
Part I of this paper showed that the hidden subgroup problem over the symmetric group--including the special case relevant to Graph Isomorphism--cannot be efficiently solved by strong Fourier sampling, even if one may perform an arbitrary POVM on the coset state. In this paper, we extend these results to entangled measurements. Specifically, we show that the hidden subgroup problem on the symmetric group cannot be solved by any POVM applied to pairs of coset states. In particular, these hidden subgroups cannot be determined by any polynomial number of one- or two-register experiments on coset states.
The Hidden Subgroup Problem (HSP) provides the fundamental framework for most quantum algorithms. Until very recently, all known problems where quantum computation provides a super-polynomial speedup over classical algorithms have been variants of the HSP for particular abelian groups. Examples include factoring integers and computing the discrete log, for which Shor found efficient quantum algorithms. The algorithm for these problems may be viewed as consisting of the main HSP solution plus an ad hoc method of dealing with the particular variant. In this dissertation, we give a systematic way of dealing with all these variants. The key component of our solution is a new theorem about the robustness of Fourier sampling. The purpose of this theorem is to better understand the structure underlying existing algorithms as well as to provide an algorithmic tool for the construction of future quantum algorithms. In addition, we also derive a new algorithm for computing the quantum Fourier transform which is asymptotically faster than any previously known algorithm. By contrast, the nonabelian HSP is wide open. It includes as a special case the longstanding open question of graph isomorphism, where the group is the symmetric group, S n . It is natural to carry over the abelian HSP algorithm to the nonabelian case. We show that in the case that the hidden subgroup is normal, this algorithm succeeds in reconstructing the subgroup in polynomial time. On the other hand, we give evidence that this algorithm is inadequate to even distinguish a trivial subgroup from an involution in t...
Many quantum algorithms, including Shor's celebrated factoring and discrete log algorithms, proceed by reduction to a hidden subgroup problem, in which a subgroup H of a group G must be determined from a quantum state y uniformly supported on a left coset of H. These hidden subgroup problems are then solved by Fourier sampling: the quantum Fourier transform of y is computed and measured. When the underlying group is non-Abelian, two important variants of the Fourier sampling paradigm have been identified: the weak standard method, where only representation names are measured, and the strong standard method, where full measurement occurs. It has remained open whether the strong standard method is indeed stronger, that is, whether there are hidden subgroups that can be reconstructed via the strong method but not by the weak, or any other known, method. In this article, we settle this question in the affirmative. We show that hidden subgroups of semidirect products of Z_p by Z_q, where q divides (p-1) and q = p / polylog(p), can be efficiently determined by the strong standard method. Furthermore, the weak standard method and the ``forgetful'' Abelian method are insufficient for these groups. We extend this to an information-theoretic solution for the hidden subgroup problem over semidirect products of Z_p by \Z_q where q divides (p-1) and, in particular, the Affine groups A_p. Finally, we prove a closure property for the class of groups over which the hidden subgroup problem can be solved efficiently.
Many quantum algorithms, including Shor's celebrated factoring and discrete log algorithms, proceed by reduction to a hidden subgroup problem, in which an unknown subgroup H of a group G must be determined from a quantum state ψ\psiψ over G that is uniformly supported on a left coset of H. These hidden subgroup problems are typically solved by Fourier sampling: the quantum Fourier transform of ψ\psiψ is computed and measured. When the underlying group is nonabelian, two important variants of the Fourier sampling paradigm have been identified: the weak standard method, where only representation names are measured, and the strong standard method, where full measurement (i.e., the row and column of the representation, in a suitably chosen basis, as well as its name) occurs. It has remained open whether the strong standard method is indeed stronger, that is, whether there are hidden subgroups that can be reconstructed via the strong method but not by the weak, or any other known, method. In this article, we settle this question in the affirmative. We show that hidden subgroups H of the q-hedral groups, i.e., semidirect products Zq⋉Zp{\mathbb Z}_q \ltimes {\mathbb Z}_pZq​⋉Zp​, where q∣(p−1)q \mid (p-1)q∣(p−1), and in particular the affine groups ApA_pAp​, can be information-theoretically reconstructed using the strong standard method. Moreover, if ∣H∣=p/polylog(p)|H| = p/ {\rm polylog}(p)∣H∣=p/polylog(p), these subgroups can be fully reconstructed with a polynomial amount of quantum and classical computation. We compare our algorithms to two weaker methods that have been discussed in the literature—the “forgetful” abelian method, and measurement in a random basis—and show that both of these are weaker than the strong standard method. Thus, at least for some families of groups, it is crucial to use the full power of representation theory and nonabelian Fourier analysis, namely, to measure the high-dimensional representations in an adapted basis that respects the group's subgroup structure. We apply our algorithm for the hidden subgroup problem to new families of cryptographically motivated hidden shift problems, generalizing the work of van Dam, Hallgren, and Ip on shifts of multiplicative characters. Finally, we close by proving a simple closure property for the class of groups over which the hidden subgroup problem can be solved efficiently.