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Physical Review A

Fisher information, disorder, and the equilibrium distributions of physics

B. Roy Frieden

Published Apr 1, 1990• 197 citations
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Abstract

Consider an isolated statistical system specified by a coordinate x and its probability density p(x). A functional of p(x) called ``Fisher information'' can be used to measure the degree of disorder of the system due to the spread in p(x). Fisher information may be minimized, subject to a physical constraint, to attain a temporal equilibrium solution p(x). When the constraint is linear in the mean kinetic energy of the system, the equilibrium solution p(x) often obeys the correct differential equation for the system. In this way, the Schr\"odinger (energy) wave equation, Klein-Gordon equation, Helmholtz wave equation, diffusion equation, Boltzmann law, and Maxwell-Boltzmann law may be derived from one classical principle of disorder. The convergence rate for Fisher information is about that for alternative use of maximum entropy (in problems where both have the same equilibrium solution). This suggests that Fisher information defines an arrow of time. The arrow points in the direction of decreasing accuracy for the determination of the mean, or ideal, value of a parameter.

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10.1103/physreva.41.4265

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Consider an isolated statistical system specified by a coordinate x and its probability density p(x). A functional of p(x) called ``Fisher information'' can be used to measure the degree of disorder of the system due to the spread in p(x). Fisher information may be minimized, subject to a physical constraint, to attain a temporal equilibrium solution p(x). When the constraint is linear in the mean kinetic energy of the system, the equilibrium solution p(x) often obeys the correct differential equation for the system. In this way, the Schr"odinger (energy) wave equation, Klein-Gordon equation, Helmholtz wave equation, diffusion equation, Boltzmann law, and Maxwell-Boltzmann law may be derived from one classical principle of disorder. The convergence rate for Fisher information is about that for alternative use of maximum entropy (in problems where both have the same equilibrium solution). This suggests that Fisher information defines an arrow of time. The arrow points in the direction of decreasing accuracy for the determination of the mean, or ideal, value of a parameter.
Optical signals may be regarded as probability laws (on photon events). The problem of optical signal recovery may therefore be viewed as a problem in estimating a probability law p(x). Maximum entropy has, in the past, been used for this purpose. Here, we discuss instead the use of minimum Fisher information I = ∫ d x [ p ′ ( x ) ] 2 / p ( x ) . Consider a physical system consisting of a random aggregate of particles or pho tons. Consider the experiment of measuring one particle's coordinate y, and from this, best estimating the mean coordinate θ of the ensemble, where y = θ + x. As time passes, the particles randomly become more spread out, so that the error in the estimate should increase. But the error goes inversely as I. Therefore, I should statistically decrease with time. With no constraint on the system, as t → ∞, I → 0, defining a maximally random law p(x) = constant. However, in the presence of a physical constraint, I should approach a finite value, obeying I = minimum. When the constraint is linear in the mean kinetic energy of the system, the solution p(x) obeys the stationary differential equation for the system. In this way, the Schrodinger (energy) wave equation, Helmholtz wave equation, diffusion equation, and Maxwell-Boltzmann law may be derived from one classical principle of disorder.
The Klein–Gordon equation for spinless particles, as well as the Weyl–Pauli and Dirac equations for particles with spin, may be derived from one information-theoretic principle. Consider a gedanken experiment whereby the mean position of a particle in a central force field is to be estimated by means of one position measurement. An efficient (optimum) estimate obeys a condition of minimum Fisher information, or minimum precision, according to the second law of thermodynamics. When the Fisher information is minimized subject to a constraint on the mean-square kinetic energy for the particle, the solution is a probability law on position whose corresponding wave amplitude obeys the Klein-Gordon equation, the Weyl–Pauli equation, or the Dirac equation, depending on whether scalar (without spin) or vector (with spin) solutions are sought. The minimized Fisher information is proportional to the mean-square kinetic energy, minus the rest energy of the particle.
This book defines and develops a unifying principle of physics, that of 'extreme physical information'. The information in question is, perhaps surprisingly, not Shannon or Boltzmann entropy but, rather, Fisher information, a simple concept little known to physicists. Both statistical and physical properties of Fisher information are developed. This information is shown to be a physical measure of disorder, sharing with entropy the property of monotonic change with time. The information concept is applied 'phenomenally' to derive most known physics, from statistical mechanics and thermodynamics to quantum mechanics, the Einstein field equations, and quantum gravity. Many new physical relations and concepts are developed, including new definitions of disorder, time and temperature. The information principle is based upon a new theory of measurement, one which incorporates the observer into the phenomenon that he/she observes. The 'request' for data creates the law that, ultimately, gives rise to the data. The observer creates his or her local reality.
This book defines and develops a unifying principle of physics, that of 'extreme physical information'. The information in question is, perhaps surprisingly, not Shannon or Boltzmann entropy but, rather, Fisher information, a simple concept little known to physicists. Both statistical and physical properties of Fisher information are developed. This information is shown to be a physical measure of disorder, sharing with entropy the property of monotonic change with time. The information concept is applied 'phenomenally' to derive most known physics, from statistical mechanics and thermodynamics to quantum mechanics, the Einstein field equations, and quantum gravity. Many new physical relations and concepts are developed, including new definitions of disorder, time and temperature. The information principle is based upon a new theory of measurement, one which incorporates the observer into the phenomenon that he/she observes. The 'request' for data creates the law that, ultimately, gives rise to the data. The observer creates his or her local reality.
In (1), a variational approach is applied to Fisher’s information (with constraints) to obtain a differential equation in P(x)=probability to be at x. It is suggested the equation may be simplified using P(x)=W(x)W(x) where W(x) is real. The result is the nonrelativistic Schrodinger equation with mass=1. As a first observation, we note that Fisher’s information, which is a purely statistical quantity, should not necessarily yield a nonrelativistic equation which is an approximation of relativistic results. In particular, we argue that Fisher’s information is used to find <pp> not necessarily 1/2m <pp>, but this is a minor point. A more important issue, we argue, is the meaning of P(x) in a bound system. A classical bound system is sometimes said to have a P(x)=C/v(x) i.e. P(x)dx is proportional to dt, the amount of time a particle spends in each equally sized dx. In the high energy limit, the envelope of a quantum bound probability P(x)=W(x)W(x) (W(x)=wavefunction) is said to roughly match C/v(x), yet this density does not follow from the extremization of Fisher’s information (together with two general constraints which yield E and V(x)=potential). This begs the question: What is P(x)? If one considers a particle moving at constant speed (i.e constant momentum) then P(x)=constant because each dx point carries the same probability. Classically a particle placed in a box with infinite potential walls would have a P(x) =constant and p and -p motion would be separated in time. Thus if P(x) is to have meaning in a box, one must conclude that the probabilities associated with p and -p are not constant, but rather functions of x. This then leads to the notion of a complex new kind of probability (which maps to P(x)=constant) for a free particle i.e. W(x) =cos(px) + i sin(px) so that the modulus W*(x)W(x)=P(x)= 1. These ideas seem to go beyond the notion of Fisher information. What then is the role of Fisher information? We argue it is related to two very specific moments of the distribution cos(px) or rather W(x) = Sum over p a(p)cos(px) with a(p)=a(-p), namely and <pp>. In classical physics there exists p and pp at each x point (but one is the square of the other), but with distributions <p does not equal to <pp> in general. Both and <pp> are linked to physical concepts which exist in Newtonian mechanics, namely impulse and work. With the presence of cos(px) one has a combination of Newtonian mechanics and a statistical distribution. We argue that the role of Fisher’s information is to allow one to transform from to <pp>. In particular, -idW/dx appears in Fisher’s information (and is linked to ), but the specific role of a variation is to transform it into <pp> which appears in a conservation of energy equation. We argue that this is why Fisher’s information may be used to derive the Schrodinger equation.
The principle of minimum Fisher information (MFI) provides a basis for deriving most of the laws of physics.1 The Fisher I is defined as (mean-squares error)-1 in the efficient determination of the classical position θ of a particle. For a one-component pdf p(x) = q2(x), the Fisher information is a one-term functional I = 4 ʃdx[q’(x)]2. Thus, I decreases as q(x) becomes smoother, or as disorder increases, consistent with the second law of thermodynamics. In the above, p(x) was specifically assumed to have a single component q2(x). Then MFI gives a real-only wave equation. Here we consider multicomponent cases p(x) = q12(x) + … + qN2(x), where the qn(x) are independent degrees of freedom. We seek the Fisher I for the case N = 2 of nonrelativistic quantum mechanics or of scalar optics. A benchmark statistical situation arises when the N components of qn(x) do not overlap. Then their informations add, and the resulting mean-squares error value is efficient, i.e. an absolute minimum.