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American Journal of Physics

Comment on: “On the Validity of Converting Sums to Integrals in Quantum Statistical Mechanics”

Kenneth Fox

Published Jan 1, 1971• 5 citations
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10.1119/1.1976733

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Quantum statistical mechanics has developed primarily through two approaches, pioneered by Gibbs and Feynman, respectively. In Gibbs' method one calculates partition functions from phase-space integrations or sums over stationary states. Alternatively, in Feynman's approach, the focus is on the path-integral formulation. The Hubbard-Stratonovich transformation leads to a functional-integral formulation for calculating partition functions. We outline here the functional integral approach to quantum statistical mechanics, including generalizations and improvements to Hubbard's formulation. We show how the dimensionality of the integrals is reduced exactly, how the problem of assuming an unknown canonical transformation is avoided, how the reality of the partition function in the complex representation is guaranteed, and how the extremum conditions are simplified. This formulation can be applied to general systems, including superconductors.
For original paper see Coveney et. al. ibid., vol.25, p.4947 (1992). The previous authors state, in the introductory section of their paper that they are looking only at a 'small part' of the Brussels formalism. The title of their paper does not reflect this restriction and refers to the general validity of the Brussels formalism. The criticisms are focused on a few papers published about twenty years ago. However, even restricted to these papers, their claims do not apply. The present authors point out two major misrepresentations.