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The two limits of the Schr

Michel Gondran, Alexandre Gondran

Published Jul 5, 2011• 0 citations
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We study, in the semi-classical approximation, the convergence of the quantum density and the quantum action, solutions to the Madelung equations, when the Planck constant h tends to 0. We find two different solutions which depend to the initial density . In the first case where the initial quantum density is a classical density rho_0(x), the quantum density and the quantum action converge to a classical action and a classical density which satisfy the statistical Hamilton-Jacobi equations. These are the equations of a set of classical particles whose initial positions are known only by the density rho_0(x). In the second case where initial density

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