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arXiv:2609.32101

Particles, Localization and "Collapse"

Anthony Rizzi

quant-phSubmitted Sep 26, 2026• Announced Sep 29, 2026• 0 citations
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Hegerfeldt's theorem shows that the localization of a particle (or field) is not possible under very general assumptions of quantum mechanics and special relativity. This theorem, and further developments and associated theorems force penetrating questions on the proper understanding of the theory and its use. In particular, the use of the collapse postulate is called into question. The existence of particles and even localized fields are called into question. And, this in turn challenges local measurements. It generally forces one to consider the profound problems and even wrong results that arise from the collapse postulate. We give a qualitatively new example of such a wrong result. Researchers and students alike are bothered by these fundamental issues. Students' ability to learn the material, and even their interest in physics, can be compromised by such disturbing conundra that seem to make physics, or at least QFT and its QM limit, seem incomprehensible and even inconsistent. This article resolves these issues in a way accessible to undergraduates, by applying the natural (minimal) interpretation of quantum mechanics (QM) (the ensemble interpretation) and explicating and clarifying the basic principles and premises used in QM and the Hegerfeldt theorem and its application to measurements.

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Hegerfeldt's theorem shows that the localization of a particle (or field) is not possible under very general assumptions of quantum mechanics and special relativity. This theorem, and further developments and associated theorems force penetrating questions on the proper understanding of the theory and its use. In particular, the use of the collapse postulate is called into question. The existence of particles and even localized fields are called into question. And, this in turn challenges local measurements. It generally forces one to consider the profound problems and even wrong results that arise from the collapse postulate. We give a qualitatively new example of such a wrong result. Researchers and students alike are bothered by these fundamental issues. Students' ability to learn the material, and even their interest in physics, can be compromised by such disturbing conundra that seem to make physics, or at least QFT and its QM limit, seem incomprehensible and even inconsistent. This article resolves these issues in a way accessible to undergraduates, by applying the natural (minimal) interpretation of quantum mechanics (QM) (the ensemble interpretation) and explicating and clarifying the basic principles and premises used in QM and the Hegerfeldt theorem and its application to measurements.
The postulate of the collapse of the wave function stands between the microscopic, quantum world, and the macroscopic world. Because of this intermediate position, the collapse process cannot be examined with the formalism of the quantum mechanics (QM), neither with that of classical mechanics. This fact makes some physicists to propose interpretations of QM, which avoid this postulate. However, the common procedure used in that, is making assumptions incompatible with the QM formalism. The present work discusses the most popular interpretations. It is shown that because of such assumptions those interpretations fail, i.e. predict for some experiments results which differ from the QM predictions. Despite of that, special attention is called to a proposal of S. Gao, the only one which addresses and tries to solve an obvious and major contradiction. A couple of theorems are proved for showing that the collapse postulate is necessary in the QM. Although nonexplainable with the quantum formalism this postulate cannot be denied, otherwise one comes to conclusions which disagree with the QM. It is also proved here that the idea of collapse at a distance is problematic especially in relativistic cases, and is a misunderstanding. Namely, in an entanglement of two quantum systems, assuming that the measurement of one of the systems (accompanied by collapse of that system on one of its states) collapses the other system too without the second system being measured, leads to a contradiction.
The postulate of the collapse of the wave-function stands between the microscopic, quantum world, and the macroscopic world. Because of this intermediate position, the collapse process cannot be examined with the formalism of the quantum mechanics (QM), neither with that of classical mechanics. This fact makes some physicists propose interpretations of QM, which avoid this postulate. However, the common procedure used in that is making assumptions incompatible with the QM formalism. The present work discusses the most popular interpretations. It is shown that because of such assumptions those interpretations fail, i.e. predict for some experiments results which differ from the QM predictions. Despite that, special attention is called to a proposal of S. Gao, the only one which addresses and tries to solve an obvious and major contradiction. A couple of theorems are proved for showing that the collapse postulate is necessary in the QM. Although non-explainable with the quantum formalism, this postulate cannot be denied, otherwise one comes to conclusions which disagree with the QM. It is also proved here that the idea of “collapse at a distance” is problematic especially in relativistic cases, and is a misunderstanding. Namely, in an entanglement of two quantum systems, assuming that the measurement of one of the systems (accompanied by collapse of that system on one of its states) collapses the other systems, too without the second system being measured, which leads to a contradiction.
The problem of measurement in quantum mechanics is that the quantum particle in the course of evolution, as described by the linear Schrodinger equation, exists in all of its possible states, but in measuring, the particle is always detected in only one of its states. This property is called the "collapse of the wave function" and was formulated by Von Neumann as one of the postulates of quantum mechanics. However, it remains unclear at what point in time and under what laws this transition occurs. This article demonstrates that the collapse of the wave function may be due to the creation or annihilation of particles (quasi-particles). The processes of the creation or annihilation of particles play a key role in the measurements and are described on the basis of quantum field theory. The system of equations of quantum field theory of particles and fields is non-linear; as a result, the principle of superposition does not hold for the theory. The collapse of the wave function is a consequence of this non-linearity and occurs at the moment of creation (annihilation) of a particle. This result demonstrates that the wave function collapse can occur in both microscopic and macroscopic systems. Understanding the mechanisms of the collapse of the wave function can lead to the creation of microscopic devices involved in the calculations based on quantum computing.
This paper reviews the partial contents of our two manuscripts displayed on arXiv and the nine published papers in some journals, and offers some new expressions. These contents explore the interpretation or research of some concepts and quantum phenomena in quantum mechanics, including foundational or fundamental issues, which delve into deeper questions beneath the basic principles. In our research, we primarily focus on the absence of interaction, or restore the external field potential energy to the interaction energy and consider the related environment qualitatively. We offer a slightly more accessible explanation for several typical quantum phenomena explained using counterintuitive coherent superposition states, summarizing that the wave nature of a particle, i.e., coherent superposition, originates from the interaction of a particle with the environment. We try to propose adding a new postulate to the fundamental postulates or principles of quantum mechanics, which we call the zeroth postulate: any material particle is not free, meaning that the interaction between a particle with its environment cannot be zero. This provides a possible foundation for understanding the wave nature of microscopic particles in quantum mechanics, specifically the coherent superposition pure states. To put this into practice, we propose a new double-slit experiment, hoping that someone will conduct it and predicting that the experimental results will show interference patterns while also identifying which slit a particle has passed through, thus resolving the which-way dilemma. Additionally, we provide explanations for quantum measurements and conservation laws different from those in general books of quantum mechanics.
Aharonov, Popescu, and Tollaksen reply: We thank the letter writers for their interest and for the opportunity to better clarify our ideas.Michael Nauenberg and Art Hobson make essentially the same point—namely, that our ideas are completely wrong. To put their criticism in the right context, we point out that the outcome of our research program is twofold. First, we have discovered an entirely new class of quantum effects; second, we present a new way of thinking about quantum mechanics.The fact that quantum mechanics predicts the effects we discovered is just that, a fact. The effects are computed using standard quantum mechanics, without additions or modifications. As such, their prediction by quantum mechanics is beyond doubt (unless one suspects algebraic mistakes). Furthermore, many of our effects have been verified experimentally; in particular, different versions of our amplification method have been used as novel technological tools. Both Nauenberg and Hobson completely ignore our effects. But one should not ignore them. They are novel and they are strange. Even more, they don’t appear in isolation, but they form a well-structured pattern. Surely there is a lesson here that quantum mechanics wants to teach us; one ignores it at one’s peril.On the other hand, our way of looking at quantum mechanics is certainly unconventional; it introduces new concepts, and it approaches old concepts in a new way. That is essentially what the two letter writers point out, Hobson most emphatically when he writes that our article “is riddled with errors.” We are criticized for thinking in a different way and for asking new questions. But our way of thinking leads to the same predictions as the conventional way, so as far as experiments are concerned they are completely equivalent. As Richard Feynman says in his book The Character of Physical Law (Modern Library, 1994), suppose we have “two theories” that “have all the consequences . . . exactly the same. . . . How are we going to decide which one is right? There is no way by science, because they both agree with the experiment to the same extent.” So the criticism is baseless.At the same time, if our approach is completely equivalent to the standard one, why bother? Again Feynman gives the best answer: “For psychological reasons . . . , these two things may be far from equivalent, because one gives a man different ideas from the other. . . . There will be something, for instance, in theory A that talks about something, . . . but to find out what the corresponding thing is . . . in [theory] B may be very complicated—it may not be a very simple idea at all.” As a consequence, a new way of thinking allows one to ask new questions that, although they could be asked in the old theory as well, would have been very difficult to even envisage. That is precisely what we did. First, we raised the issue of the physics in pre- and postselected ensembles. And to reply to Hobson, no, there is nothing “erroneous” in the process of postselection. Postselection is a question about results of experiments, and every question about the results of actual measurements is legitimate. Subsequently, we discovered the concept of weak measurements, which in turn led us to discover the various effects we presented. Since the power of any new approach is given by its ability to predict new effects, one should conclude that ours is strong indeed.Furthermore, as many physicists agree, an intuitive understanding of quantum mechanics is still missing. That is why quantum physicists are surprised over and over again by the discovery of strange and unexpected fundamental effects. We hope that our new way of thinking is a step toward the long-sought intuition. Even more important, the new way of thinking may give us new ideas about what to change, if experiments ever turn out to contradict quantum mechanics and therefore require its modification. In particular, since we tinker with the idea of time— one of the most important concepts in physics—starting the change from there may be a very potent method.Shaul Mukamel refers to our experiment in which the component along some given axis of a spin-1⁄2 particle is found, by a weak measurement, to have the value √2‾/2 which is √2‾ times larger than the largest eigenvalue. He suggests an alternative explanation based on a classical vector model of spin. According to his explanation, values up to √3‾/2 should be possible. However, we presented the experiment showing √2‾/2 only because it was mathematically simple; by choosing a different postselection, we could have obtained, as results of weak measurements, values as large as we wanted. 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That conclusion would be wrong. Quantum mechanics is strange and unusual and defies intuition in many ways; solving the collapse problem is by no means its only interesting fundamental issue. Nor can the solution of that one problem lead to a complete understanding of quantum phenomena. That particles tunnel in the first place is surprising by itself; even more so is the fact that, as we showed, perfectly good measuring devices, working with arbitrarily high precision, indicate consistently that the tunneling particles have negative kinetic energy. Equally surprising is that we can arrange a situation in which perfectly good measurements, made with as high a precision as we want, indicate that spin-1⁄2 particles have arbitrarily large spin. And these are only two examples. As far as we are aware, none of the many proposed solutions to the collapse problem make these effects seem less surprising, let alone predict them.© 2011 American Institute of Physics.