Ojha, Sardana, and Ghosh [Phys. Rev. A 113, 042221 (2026)] propose that tracing environmental records of particle permutations produces an entropy kB ln N!, thereby explaining the Gibbs factor, and use the same construction to multiply the Saha equilibrium relation by 1/(Ne!Np!). We show that these conclusions do not follow. The reduced density matrix printed in their Eq. (32) is not a partial trace, and even under the natural corrected interpretation the entropy equals kB ln N! only when the system branch states are mutually orthogonal. That condition is not generally satisfied and, when imposed on labeled permutation branches, does not by itself restrict the particle state to one bosonic or fermionic symmetry sector. A two-particle calculation makes the contradiction explicit. Their Gibbs-paradox calculation also starts from a distinguishable-particle entropy while calling it the Sackur-Tetrode entropy. In the Saha section, the state in Eq. (52), as written, factorizes and has zero system-environment entanglement. The proposed factorial does not approach unity in the claimed dilute-gas limit, does not yield a finite nonzero intensive thermodynamic limit, and counts indistinguishability twice. We give the corrected canonical and fugacity-based formulations and identify which standard results of the paper remain unaffected.
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Ojha, Sardana, and Ghosh [Phys. Rev. A 113, 042221 (2026)] propose that tracing environmental records of particle permutations produces an entropy kB ln N!, thereby explaining the Gibbs factor, and use the same construction to multiply the Saha equilibrium relation by 1/(Ne!Np!). We show that these conclusions do not follow. The reduced density matrix printed in their Eq. (32) is not a partial trace, and even under the natural corrected interpretation the entropy equals kB ln N! only when the system branch states are mutually orthogonal. That condition is not generally satisfied and, when imposed on labeled permutation branches, does not by itself restrict the particle state to one bosonic or fermionic symmetry sector. A two-particle calculation makes the contradiction explicit. Their Gibbs-paradox calculation also starts from a distinguishable-particle entropy while calling it the Sackur-Tetrode entropy. In the Saha section, the state in Eq. (52), as written, factorizes and has zero system-environment entanglement. The proposed factorial does not approach unity in the claimed dilute-gas limit, does not yield a finite nonzero intensive thermodynamic limit, and counts indistinguishability twice. We give the corrected canonical and fugacity-based formulations and identify which standard results of the paper remain unaffected.
We build on the foundational work of Deffner and Zurek [S. Deffner and W. H. Zurek, New J. Phys. 18, 063013 (2016)] to show how central equilibrium structures of statistical mechanics can be understood within standard quantum mechanics using the concept of envariance (environment-assisted invariance). In particular, we show how the Binomial, Poisson, and Gaussian distributions naturally emerge from entangled system-environment states. We revisit the Gibbs paradox from a quantum information perspective, demonstrating that the standard Sackur-Tetrode entropy and its 1/N! factor arise from indistinguishability enforced through entanglement with an environment, without introducing additional thermodynamic corrections. Within the same framework, we analyze ionization equilibrium and show how the classical Saha equation is recovered, while clarifying how indistinguishability enters through an entanglement-induced reduction of permutation redundancy. Assuming the standard exchange symmetries of identical quantum particles, we further show how the Bose-Einstein and Fermi-Dirac distributions follow as the equilibrium weighting of symmetry-allowed occupation configurations. Overall, our results support the view that equilibrium statistical mechanics can be consistently interpreted as an emergent consequence of quantum information-theoretic structure and symmetry, rather than as a collection of independent phenomenological postulates.
We revisit recent discussions concerning the Gibbs paradox—the apparent discrepancy between the entropy change upon mixing identical gases as evaluated from the statistical mechanics of classical distinguishable particles and macroscopic thermodynamics. Contrary to what is often stated, we show that thermodynamics does not require this entropy of mixing to be zero. A zero value follows from the implicit assumption that the identical gas particles are indistinguishable. If the identical particles are explicitly assumed to be distinguishable, thermodynamics yields the same entropy of mixing as classical statistical mechanics.
The division by N! in the expression of statistical entropy is usually justified to students by the statement that classical particles should be counted as indistinguishable. Sometimes, quantum indistinguishability is invoked to explain it. In this paper, we try to clarify the issue starting from Clausius thermodynamical entropy and deriving from it Boltzmann statistical entropy for the ideal gas. This approach appears interesting for two reasons: Firstly, it provides a direct heuristic link between thermodynamical and statistical expressions of entropy that is missing in the usual approach. In second place, it explicitly reminds that also statistical entropy is defined with respect to a reference state, chosen to be the quantum-mechanical (T=0) ground state of the N-particles in a box. Both factors h3N and N! at the denominator of the statistical entropy are a consequence of the quantum nature of the reference state: in particular, the N! is not related to the particle identity, but to the identity of the boundary conditions on the quantum-mechanical ground-state momenta, and to a general statistical maximization principle. The introduction of a reference state also allows to reinterpret the standard case of two mixing gases.
Abstract The quantum thermodynamics of the ideal gas is treated by means of the particle entropies σ=ka. The non-dimensional entropy numbers a are calculated by the extended, temperature-dependent Schrödinger equation applying periodic boundary conditions. The Boltzmann constant k represents the atomic entropy unit. The quantized particle entropies a are used to calculate the Boltzmann distribution f=exp(α−a), the density of entropy levels D(a), the dimensionless chemical potential α=μ/kT, etc. – The thermodynamics of the ideal gas is treated on the basis of entropy quanta by means of the density matrix formalism. In this way we obtain the total particle entropy A, the thermodynamic entropy S (equation of Sackur-Tetrode), the internal and the Helmholtz free energy E and F, respectively, etc. Moreover, it can also be shown on the basis of entropy quanta that the entropy of a closed system in thermal equilibrium has a maximum value, S=S max. Against this, the entropy S ′ of an arbitrary non-equilibrium state is always smaller, S′ < S max (second law of thermodynamics). – Application of ordinary density matrix theory to a closed system of N particles leads to the result that the entropy S does not change in time, dS/dt=0, regardless whether we consider an equilibrium state, S=S max, or a non-equilibrium state, S=S′. Consequently, S cannot irreversibly change from S′ to S max. However, any irreversible process is accompanied by a positive entropy production P=dS/dt>0. In order to overcome this obvious contradiction, we discuss the entropy evolution in time by means of the commutator equation G =i[ P , t ], which is deduced from very general assumptions. Here P and t are the operators of the entropy production P and the time t. Accordingly, P and t do not commute in general, and hence P and t are not sharply defined simultaneously. Instead we have uncertainties ΔP and Δt, which are expressed by the uncertainty relation of the N-particle system, ΔPΔt≥(1/2)|〈 G 〉|=(γ/2)k. This P − t uncertainty relation easily allows a discussion of the evolution of the entropy S in time t from S′ to S max. Now the irreversible steps are correctly described by the entropy production P=dS/dt > 0, and the thermal equilibrium by P=0, ∆P=0, and thus the lifetime ∆t=∞.
Identical classical particles are distinguishable. This distinguishability affects the number of ways W a macrostate can be realized on the microlevel, and from the relation S=k ln W leads to a nonextensive expression for the entropy. This result is usually considered incorrect because of its inconsistency with thermodynamics. It is sometimes concluded from this inconsistency that identical particles are fundamentally indistinguishable and that quantum mechanics is indispensable for making sense of this inconsistency. In contrast, we argue that the classical statistics of distinguishable particles and the resulting nonextensive entropy function are perfectly acceptable from both a theoretical and an experimental perspective. The inconsistency with thermodynamics can be removed by taking into account that the entropy concept in statistical mechanics is not completely identical to the thermodynamical one. We observe that even identical quantum particles are in some cases distinguishable, and conclude that quantum mechanics is irrelevant to the Gibbs paradox.
The Gibbs paradox in statistical mechanics is often taken to indicate that already in the classical domain particles should be treated as fundamentally indistinguishable. This paper shows, on the contrary, how one can recover the thermodynamical account of the entropy of mixing, while treating states that only differ by permutations of similar particles as distinct. By reference to the orthodox theory of thermodynamics, it is argued that entropy differences are only meaningful if they are related to reversible processes connecting the initial and final state. For mixing processes, this means that processes should be considered in which particle number is allowed to vary. Within the context of statistical mechanics, the Gibbsian grandcanonical ensemble is a suitable device for describing such processes. It is shown how the grandcanonical entropy relates in the appropriate way to changes of other thermodynamical quantities in reversible processes, and how the thermodynamical account of the entropy of mixing is recovered even when treating the particles as distinguishable.