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arXiv:2603.25485

Networks of quantum reference frames and the nature of conserved quantities

Daniel Collins, Carolina Moreira Ferrera, Ismael L. Paiva, Sandu Popescu

quant-phSubmitted Mar 26, 2026• Announced Mar 27, 2026• 0 citations
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Abstract

We show that networks of quantum frames of reference, in which one frame may be used to produce multiple other frames that in their turn prepare systems which may interact with one another, have counterintuitive properties that make following the exchange of conserved quantities very subtle, and raise questions about the very nature of conserved quantities. In addition, we present an alternative approach to analysing quantum reference frames that we believe will be useful in discussions related to quantum frames of reference.

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Abstract Reference frames are used to parameterize measurements of physical effects, but since their practical realization uses material objects, they may affect observations performed in a combined quantum state of the measured system together with the frame. Here, a procedure is used that makes it possible to describe non-monotonic reference scales in a quantum treatment, revealing large quantum effects in the measured system whenever a reference frame encounters a turning point. Subtle quantum correlations in the combined state of system and frame, and more broadly the concept of relational quantum mechanics, can be tested via a characteristic and surprisingly large shift in the measured value.
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