Whether the complex numbers of standard quantum theory are experimentally indispensable has remained open for decades. Real quantum theory (RQT), obtained by replacing complex amplitudes with real ones while retaining the usual Kronecker-product composition rule, reproduces all single-party and bipartite Bell correlations of quantum theory (QT), but its lack of local tomography suggested that the two theories might diverge in more general local experiments. This possibility appeared to be confirmed by Renou et al., who argued that a bilocal network experiment can falsify RQT without falsifying QT. Here we show that this conclusion relies on an experimentally untestable assumption. The key distinction is between product-state independence, which constrains the mathematical form of source states, and operational independence, which is defined entirely by the absence of observable cross-source correlations. We prove that, once source independence is imposed operationally, every finite network correlation achievable in QT is also achievable in RQT with the same locality structure of the measurements. We then extend this equivalence to arbitrary finite sequential multipartite protocols involving channels and measurements with prescribed locality structure. Thus, as long as no violation of QT is observed, RQT cannot be experimentally falsified. Our results restore the empirical indistinguishability of QT and RQT, while showing that they support markedly different pictures of the correlation structure underlying the same observed world.
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60 pages (7 main, 10 technical material, 43 appendices), 5 figures (4 in main, 1 in appendix)
Whether the complex numbers of standard quantum theory are experimentally indispensable has remained open for decades. Real quantum theory (RQT), obtained by replacing complex amplitudes with real ones while retaining the usual Kronecker-product composition rule, reproduces all single-party and bipartite Bell correlations of quantum theory (QT), but its lack of local tomography suggested that the two theories might diverge in more general local experiments. This possibility appeared to be confirmed by Renou et al., who argued that a bilocal network experiment can falsify RQT without falsifying QT. Here we show that this conclusion relies on an experimentally untestable assumption. The key distinction is between product-state independence, which constrains the mathematical form of source states, and operational independence, which is defined entirely by the absence of observable cross-source correlations. We prove that, once source independence is imposed operationally, every finite network correlation achievable in QT is also achievable in RQT with the same locality structure of the measurements. We then extend this equivalence to arbitrary finite sequential multipartite protocols involving channels and measurements with prescribed locality structure. Thus, as long as no violation of QT is observed, RQT cannot be experimentally falsified. Our results restore the empirical indistinguishability of QT and RQT, while showing that they support markedly different pictures of the correlation structure underlying the same observed world.
In our previous paper on the matter, we proved that real quantum theory (RQT) cannot be experimentally falsified without the experiment falsifying quantum theory (QT) as well. Our result is in direct contradiction to the central claim of an article by Renou et al., published in Nature [600, 625--629 (2021)], reporting a bilocal network experiment that could falsify real quantum theory without falsifying quantum theory.
The purpose of this note is to address several seemingly natural attempts to recover the experimental conclusion of Renou et al. We first explain how these results, although based on nonlocality experiments, are far from a Bell-like level of proof. Then we explain why the proposed experiment requires an experimentally untestable premise about independent preparations necessarily being represented as product states. Finally, we discuss some concerns that lie outside the scope of both results.
Standard quantum mechanics employs complex Hilbert spaces, but whether complex numbers are fundamental or merely convenient has long been debated. For decades, real-valued equivalents were considered mathematically possible but cumbersome. However, a highly cited 2021 result claimed that any quantum theory based on real numbers is experimentally falsifiable via network Bell experiments. Yet, it remains an open question whether this falsification applies to all real-valued theories. Here we show that this conclusion rests on an incomplete real formulation, and we present a rigorous real-valued framework that perfectly reproduces all predictions of standard quantum mechanics. We demonstrate that the standard real tensor product (⊗R) used in previous no-go theorems is algebraically incompatible with the rich structure of conventional quantum mechanics. We present a real framework based on Kähler space and prove that it is exactly isomorphic to established quantum mechanics via an explicit bijection γ. The isomorphism extends to composite systems through a symplectic composition rule $\otimes^{\ks}$ that replaces the Kronecker product. Consequently, our formulation achieves the maximal CHSH3 violation of 62 using purely real variables, demonstrating that the no-go theorem is specific to a particular real representation of states and operators and to the composition rule ⊗R built upon it, neither of which extends to the present Kähler framework. These results demonstrate that complex numbers are not fundamentally required by nature; rather, they encode a deeper real geometric structure that governs quantum interference and entanglement, settling this long debate.
The role of complex quantities in quantum theory has been puzzling physicists since the beginnings. It is, thus, natural to ask whether, in order to describe our experiments, the mathematical structure of the complex Hilbert spaces it is built on is really necessary. Recently, it was shown that this structure is inevitable in network scenarios with independent sources. More precisely, Real Quantum Theory cannot explain the predictions of (Complex) Quantum Theory [Renou et al., Nature (London) 600, 625 (2021).NATUAS0028-083610.1038/s41586-021-04160-4]. Here, we revisit the independence assumption underlying this work. We show that assuming partial independence is sufficient for showing the inadequacy of Real Quantum Theory. We derive a tradeoff between source independence and the Bell value achievable in Real Quantum Theory, which also lower bounds the source correlations required to explain previous experiments by means of real quantum systems. We further show that 1 bit of entanglement is necessary and sufficient for recovering the complex quantum correlations by means of Real Quantum Theory in the scenario from [Renou et al., Nature (London) 600, 625 (2021).NATUAS0028-083610.1038/s41586-021-04160-4]. Finally, building on [McKague et al., Phys. Rev. Lett. 102, 2009PRLTAO0031-900710.1103/PhysRevLett.102.020505], we provide a construction to simulate any complex quantum setup with m independent sources by means of Real Quantum Theory by allowing the sources to share an m real-qubit entangled state in the first round of the experiment.
In a previous work, we showed that real quantum theory (RQT) cannot be experimentally distinguished from ordinary quantum theory (QT). In this paper, we investigate whether this indistinguishability survives two natural extensions of the setting: allowing separated measurements to be represented by commuting rather than tensor-product observables, and imposing superselection rules, as in fermionic information theory. We show that it does in both cases.
Our first result is a positive answer to the Tsirelson problem in RQT: commuting and tensor-product measurements generate the same finite-dimensional correlations. This is surprisingly not a trivial consequence of the standard complex proof, as it does not carry over to the reals. The proof obstruction becomes particularly relevant in the presence of superselection rules, which is why we first establish the equivalence in RQT before extending the framework to superselected RQT.
Our second result is a local, real quantum formulation of superselected theories. We extend the RQT framework to accommodate a representation of superselection over the reals and show, in particular, that it admits a fermionic version whose predictions are experimentally indistinguishable from those of fermionic information theory. More generally, the construction extends to all superselected QTs.
Abstract Although complex numbers are essential in mathematics, they are not needed to describe physical experiments, as those are expressed in terms of probabilities, hence real numbers. Physics, however, aims to explain, rather than describe, experiments through theories. Although most theories of physics are based on real numbers, quantum theory was the first to be formulated in terms of operators acting on complex Hilbert spaces 1,2 . This has puzzled countless physicists, including the fathers of the theory, for whom a real version of quantum theory, in terms of real operators, seemed much more natural 3 . In fact, previous studies have shown that such a ‘real quantum theory’ can reproduce the outcomes of any multipartite experiment, as long as the parts share arbitrary real quantum states 4 . Here we investigate whether complex numbers are actually needed in the quantum formalism. We show this to be case by proving that real and complex Hilbert-space formulations of quantum theory make different predictions in network scenarios comprising independent states and measurements. This allows us to devise a Bell-like experiment, the successful realization of which would disprove real quantum theory, in the same way as standard Bell experiments disproved local physics.
Real-amplitude quantum theory is the subtheory of quantum theory invariant under complex conjugation, and experiments in networks of independent sources have measured correlations above the real bound. We construct a theory on which the same conjugation fails complete positivity and still leaves every probability in the unit interval, and whose correlations are exactly those of its own conjugation-invariant subtheory in every causal structure, the bilocality scenario included. Its states are all the density matrices, its effects are the operators every partial transpose of which is again a quantum effect, and its operations are the completely PPT-preserving maps. The symmetrized subtheory simulates it once each source carries a reference frame rather than each system. One map therefore receives three different verdicts in three theories, so the symmetry alone marks no boundary at all. Quantum theory admits every effect its states permit, and no theory with that property can hide a symmetry this way, so what sustains the separation measured in the network experiments is the absence of a restriction rather than any feature of conjugation. What does have a boundary is the class of theories whose correlations coincide with those of their symmetrized subtheory. We show that sectorial closure, meaning invariance of the effects and the operations under the symmetry acting independently on each source, suffices for the absence of a gap under any finite group, and that it cannot be weakened on the effects. Fixing unrestricted states and conjugation makes the effects of this theory the largest the symmetry admits and its operations the largest sectorially closed ones, so it is not one construction among several. Locating where sectorial closure fails, for a candidate effect set built from a fixed bound entangled state, is a finite computation on a single ray of effects.