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arXiv:2603.07153 · Frontiers in Quantum Science and Technology

Dynamics of ideal quantum measurement of a spin 1 with a Curie-Weiss magnet

Theodorus Maria Nieuwenhuizen

quant-phcond-mat.otherSubmitted Mar 7, 2026• Announced Mar 10, 2026• 0 citations
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Abstract

Quantum measurement is a dynamical process of an apparatus coupled to a test system. Ideal measurement of the $z$-component of a spin-$\frac{1}{2}$ ($s_z=\pm\frac{1}{2}$) has been modeled by the Curie-Weiss model for quantum measurement. Recently, the model was generalized to higher spin and the thermodynamics was solved. Here the dynamics is considered. To this end, the dynamics for spin-$\frac{1}{2}$ case are cast in general notation. The dynamics of the measurement of the $z$-component of a spin-1 ($s_z=0,\pm 1$) are solved in detail and evaluated numerically. Energy costs of the measurement, which are macroscopic, are evaluated. Generalization to higher spin is straightforward.

Journal reference
Frontiers in Quantum Science and Technology 4, 1603372 (2025)
DOI
10.3389/frqst.2025.1603372
Comments
23 pages latex, 7 figures

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A Hamiltonian model is solved, which satisfies all requirements for a realistic ideal quantum measurement. The system S is a spin-½, whose z -component is measured through coupling with an apparatus A = M + B, consisting of a magnet M formed by a set of N >> 1 spins with quartic infinite-range Ising interactions, and a phonon bath B at temperature T . Initially A is in a metastable paramagnetic phase. The process involves several time-scales. Without being much affected, A first acts on S, whose state collapses in a very brief time. The mechanism differs from the usual decoherence. Soon after its irreversibility is achieved. Finally, the field induced by S on M, which may take two opposite values with probabilities given by Born's rule, drives A into its up or down ferromagnetic phase. The overall final state involves the expected correlations between the result registered in M and the state of S. The measurement is thus accounted for by standard quantum-statistical mechanics and its specific features arise from the macroscopic size of the apparatus.
The possibility of performing simultaneous measurements in quantum mechanics is investigated in the context of the Curie-Weiss model for a projective measurement. Concretely, we consider a spin--12\frac{1}{2}21​ system simultaneously interacting with two magnets, which act as measuring apparatuses of two different spin components. We work out the dynamics of this process and determine the final state of the measuring apparatuses, from which we can find the probabilities of the four possible outcomes of the measurements. The measurement is found to be nonideal, as (i) the joint statistics do not coincide with the one obtained by separately measuring each spin component, and (ii) the density matrix of the spin does not collapse in either of the measured observables. However, we give an operational interpretation of the process as a generalized quantum measurement, and show that it is fully informative: The expected value of the measured spin components can be found with arbitrary precision for sufficiently many runs of the experiment.
An exactly solvable model for a quantum measurement is discussed, that integrates quantum measurements with classical measurements. The z-component of a spin-1/2 test spin is measured with an apparatus, that itself consists of magnet of N spin-1/2 particles, coupled to a bath. The initial state of the magnet is a metastable paramagnet, while the bath starts in a thermal, gibbsian state. Conditions are such that the act of measurement drives the magnet in the up or down ferromagnetic state, according to the sign of s_z of the test spin. The quantum measurement goes in two steps. On a timescale 1/\sqrt{N} the collapse takes place due to a unitary evolution of test spin and apparatus spins; on a larger but still short timescale this collapse is made definite by the bath. Then the system is in a `classical' state, having a diagonal density matrix. The registration of that state is basically a classical process, that can already be understood from classical statistical mechanics.
In textbooks, ideal quantum measurements are described in terms of the tested system only by the collapse postulate and Born's rule. This level of description offers a rather flexible position for the interpretation of quantum mechanics. Here we analyse an ideal measurement as a process of interaction between the tested system S and an apparatus A, so as to derive the properties postulated in textbooks. We thus consider within standard quantum mechanics the measurement of a quantum spin component ŝz by an apparatus A, being a magnet coupled to a bath. We first consider the evolution of the density operator of S + A describing a large set of runs of the measurement process. The approach describes the disappearance of the off-diagonal terms ("truncation") of the density matrix as a physical effect due to A, while the registration of the outcome has classical features due to the large size of the pointer variable, the magnetization. A quantum ambiguity implies that the density matrix at the final time can be decomposed on many bases, not only the one of the measurement. This quantum oddity prevents to connect individual outcomes to measurements, a difficulty known as the "measurement problem". It is shown that it is circumvented by the apparatus as well, since the evolution in a small time interval erases all decompositions, except the one on the measurement basis. Once one can derive the outcome of individual events from quantum theory, the so-called collapse of the wavefunction or the reduction of the state appears as the result of a selection of runs among the original large set. Hence nothing more than standard quantum mechanics is needed to explain features of measurements. The employed statistical formulation is advocated for the teaching of quantum theory.
An exactly solvable model for a quantum measurement is discussed which is governed by hamiltonian quantum dynamics. The z‐component ŝz of a spin −12 is measured with an apparatus, which itself consists of magnet coupled to a bath. The initial state of the magnet is a metastable paramagnet, while the bath starts in a thermal, gibbsian state. Conditions are such that the act of measurement drives the magnet in the up or down ferromagnetic state according to the sign of sz of the tested spin. The quantum measurement goes in two steps. On a timescale 1/N the off‐diagonal elements of the spin’s density matrix vanish due to a unitary evolution of the tested spin and the N apparatus spins; on a larger but still short timescale this is made definite by the bath. Then the system is in a ‘classical’ state, having a diagonal density matrix. The registration of that state is a quantum process which can already be understood from classical statistical mechanics. The von Neumann collapse and the Born rule are derived rather than postulated.