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arXiv:2503.09201 · Academia quantum.

On the weak point of the stronger uncertainty relation

K. Urbanowski

Published Feb 28, 2025• 4 citations
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Abstract

We analyze the uncertainty relation for the sum of variances, which is called, in some papers, the stronger uncertainty relation for all incompatible observables. We show that this uncertainty relation for the sum of variances of the observables A and B calculated for the eigenstate of one of these observables (say of B), contrary to the suggestions presented in some papers, leads to the same results as the Heisenberg–Robertson uncertainty relation; that is, it does not give any bounds on the variance of A.

DOI
10.20935/acadquant7557

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We analyze the uncertainty relation for the sum of variances, which is called, in some papers, the stronger uncertainty relation for all incompatible observables. We show that this uncertainty relation for the sum of variances of the observables A and B calculated for the eigenstate of one of these observables (say of B), contrary to the suggestions presented in some papers, leads to the same results as the Heisenberg–Robertson uncertainty relation; that is, it does not give any bounds on the variance of A.
The Heisenberg-Robertson uncertainty relation expresses a limitation in the possible preparations of the system by giving a lower bound to the product of the variances of two observables in terms of their commutator. Notably, it does not capture the concept of incompatible observables because it can be trivial; i.e., the lower bound can be null even for two noncompatible observables. Here we give two stronger uncertainty relations, relating to the sum of variances, whose lower bound is guaranteed to be nontrivial whenever the two observables are incompatible on the state of the system.
Heisenberg-Robertson's uncertainty relation expresses a limitation in the possible preparations of the system by giving a lower bound to the product of the variances of two observables in terms of their commutator. Notably, it does not capture the concept of incompatible observables because it can be trivial, i.e., the lower bound can be null even for two non-compatible observables. Here we give two stronger uncertainty relations, relating to the sum of variances, whose lower bound is guaranteed to be nontrivial whenever the two observables are incompatible on the state of the system.
We analyze the weak and critical points of various uncertainty relations that follow from the inequalities for the norms of vectors in the Hilbert space of states of a quantum system. There are studied uncertainty relations for sums of standard deviations, for sums of variances, and other relations between standard deviations or variances. The obtained results are compared with the conclusions obtained in similar cases using the standard Heisenberg-Robertson uncertainty relation. We also show that there exists an upper bound on the product of standard deviations that appears in the Heisenberg-Robertson uncertainty relation.
The Heisenberg-Robertson uncertainty relation quantitatively expresses the impossibility of jointly sharp preparation of incompatible observables. However, it does not capture the concept of incompatible observables because it can be trivial even for two incompatible observables. We experimentally demonstrate that the new stronger uncertainty relations proposed by Maccone and Pati [Phys. Rev. Lett. 113, 260401 (2014)] relating to the sum of variances are valid in a state-dependent manner and that the lower bound is guaranteed to be nontrivial when two observables are incompatible on the state of the system being measured. The behavior we find agrees with the predictions of quantum theory and obeys the new uncertainty relations even for the special states which trivialize the Heisenberg-Robertson relation. We realize a direct measurement model and perform an experimental investigation of the strengthened relations.
The Heisenberg-Robertson uncertainty relation is the hallmark of quantum physics and has been widely investigated. However, it does not capture the concept of incompatible observables because it can be trivial even for incompatible observables. Recently some stronger uncertainty relations relating the sums of variances were proposed. Here we experimentally demonstrate that these stronger multiobservable uncertainty relations are valid in a state-dependent manner and that the lower bound is guaranteed to be nontrivial for multiple observables that are incompatible on the state of the system being measured. We find that the behavior of multiple high-dimensional observables agrees with the predictions of quantum theory. Our experimental results not only foster insight into a fundamental limitation of measurements with multiple observables but also contribute to the study of the precision measurement technology in quantum information processing.
Recently, Maccone and Pati [Phys. Rev. Lett. {\bf 113}, 260401 (2014)] derived few inequalities among variances of incompatible operators which they called stronger uncertainty relations, stronger than Heisenberg-Robertson or Schrodinger uncertainty relations. Here we generalize their study to get infinite number of such inequalities and propose that only one of them may be the correct uncertainty relation between incompatible operators. We get back well known uncertainty relations of Heisenberg-Robertson and Schrodinger under certain limits. We also reexamine the conclusions of Maccone and Pati and comment on their work.