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arXiv:2402.17024

Quantum gravity with dynamical wave-function collapse via a classical scalar field

Zachary Weller-Davies

Published Feb 26, 2024• 0 citations
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Abstract

In hybrid classical-quantum theories, the dynamics of the classical system induce the classicality of the quantum system, meaning that such models do not necessarily require a measurement postulate to describe probabilistic measurement outcomes. It has recently been shown that covariant classical-quantum dynamics can be constructed using path integral methods, with the dynamics encoded in a combined action for the classical and quantum variables. This work introduces a classical-quantum model whereby quantum gravity interacts with a classical scalar field. The scalar field can be viewed as fundamentally classical or effectively classical due to the decoherence of a quantum gravity theory. The dynamics act to collapse quantum spacetimes according to their Ricci scalar, with corresponding diffusion in the scalar field due to the quantum back-reaction. In the classical limit, the diffusion in the scalar field manifests itself via stochastic fluctuations in the Newtonian potential. Because we couple a classical scalar field to perturbative quantum gravity, we find the theory is not renormalizable but is instead to be viewed as an effective field theory. However, it is an effective field theory that does not necessarily require a measurement postulate. More generally, our work shows it is possible to integrate collapse dynamics with high-energy physics and covariance.

DOI
10.48550/arxiv.2402.17024

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In hybrid classical-quantum theories, the dynamics of the classical system induce the classicality of the quantum system, meaning that such models do not necessarily require a measurement postulate to describe probabilistic measurement outcomes. It has recently been shown that covariant classical-quantum dynamics can be constructed using path integral methods, with the dynamics encoded in a combined action for the classical and quantum variables. This work introduces a classical-quantum model whereby quantum gravity interacts with a classical scalar field. The scalar field can be viewed as fundamentally classical or effectively classical due to the decoherence of a quantum gravity theory. The dynamics act to collapse quantum spacetimes according to their Ricci scalar, with corresponding diffusion in the scalar field due to the quantum back-reaction. In the classical limit, the diffusion in the scalar field manifests itself via stochastic fluctuations in the Newtonian potential. Because we couple a classical scalar field to perturbative quantum gravity, we find the theory is not renormalizable but is instead to be viewed as an effective field theory. However, it is an effective field theory that does not necessarily require a measurement postulate. More generally, our work shows it is possible to integrate collapse dynamics with high-energy physics and covariance.
A consistent theory including gravitational effects in quantum mechanics has not been found. Although many different approaches have been proposed for theory of quantum gravity, several authors have suggested that gravity may be fundamentally classical. As there is no experimental evidence for a fundamentally quantum vs. fundamentally classical theory of gravity, it is hoped that investigating the consequences of semiclassical gravity, one may propose an experiment to distinguish between the quantum or classical nature of gravity. As opto- and electromechanical devices allow quantum limited measurement and control over massive, mechanical degrees of freedom, they are ideal systems to test violations of standard quantum mechanics arising from gravitational effects. After a brief introduction to the background theory and literature review, we begin by introducing a semiclassical model of gravity based on quantum measurement and control. We show under which conditions the theory behaves like a collapse model, and how a Newtonian potential is recovered in the multi particle case.We then go on to analyse our semiclassical model in two scenarios: firstly in a cosmological setting, and secondly by considering quantum clocks on the surface of the earth. In the cosmological description, we show that a violation of energy conservation, resulting from our model, can be reinterpreted as a dark energy fluid in the spacetime, suggesting that perhaps local violations of conservations of energy may be resolved in a cosmological framework. Secondly, we derive a minimum, gravitational dephasing rate for quantum clocks under the semiclassical model, which unsurprisingly, is is well below the resolution of current state of the art clocks. The next chapters diverge from analysing the gravitational model, and instead focus on novel methods of manipulating and measuring micromechanical devices, that may be used to experimentally probe the results of the semi-classical theory. Firstly we show that a sequence of coherently controlled pulses in an optomechanical system can be used to directly probe the momentum of an oscillator - opening up the possibility for direct detection of momentum diffusion, which is a consequence of the semiclassical gravity model. Secondly, we introduce an electro-mechanical device, and sequence of control operations, that may be understood as an interferometer for the wave function of a mechanical oscillator coupled to a qubit. We show how the resulting interference pattern can distinguish between unitary evolution, thermalisation/decoherence, and a purely classical description of the mechanical oscillator. We also show how the qubit-oscillator interaction can be used generate arbitrary wave functions of the mechanical oscillator, using only classical qubit driving.
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