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arXiv:2309.11835 · Scientific Reports

On the spin dependence of detection times and the nonmeasurability of arrival times

Sheldon Goldstein, Roderich Tumulka, Nino Zanghı̀

Published Feb 15, 2024• 11 citations
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Abstract

According to a well-known principle of quantum physics, the statistics of the outcomes of any quantum experiment are governed by a Positive-Operator-Valued Measure (POVM). In particular, for experiments designed to measure a specific physical quantity, like the time of a particle's first arrival at a surface, this principle establishes that if the probability distribution of that quantity does not arise from a POVM, no such experiment exists. Such is the case with the arrival time distributions proposed by Das and Dürr, due to the nature of their spin dependence.

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10.1038/s41598-024-53777-8

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We formulate quantum tunneling as a time-of-arrival problem: we determine the detection probability for particles passing through a barrier at a detector located a distance L from the tunneling region. For this purpose, we use a positive-operator-valued measure (POVM) for the time of arrival determined in C. Anastopoulos and N. Savvidou, J. Math. Phys. 47, 122106 (2006). This only depends on the initial state, the Hamiltonian, and the location of the detector. The POVM above provides a well-defined probability density and an unambiguous interpretation of all quantities involved. We demonstrate that for a class of localized initial states, the detection probability allows for an identification of tunneling time with the classic phase time. We also establish limits to the definability of tunneling time. We then generalize these results to a sequential measurement setup: the phase-space properties of the particles are determined by an unsharp sampling before their attempt to cross the barrier. For such measurements the tunneling time is defined as a genuine observable. This allows us to construct a probability distribution for its values that is definable for all initial states and potentials. We also identify a regime in which these probabilities correspond to a tunneling-time operator.
We study the construction of probability densities for time-of-arrival in quantum mechanics. Our treatment is based upon the facts that (i) time appears in quantum theory as an external parameter to the system, and (ii) propositions about the time-of-arrival appear naturally when one considers histories. The definition of time-of-arrival probabilities is straightforward in stochastic processes. The difficulties that arise in quantum theory are due to the fact that the time parameter of Schrödinger’s equation does not naturally define a probability density at the continuum limit, but also because the procedure one follows is sensitive on the interpretation of the reduction procedure. We consider the issue in Copenhagen quantum mechanics and in history-based schemes like consistent histories. The benefit of the latter is that it allows a proper passage to the continuous limit–there are however problems related to the quantum Zeno effect and decoherence. We finally employ the histories-based description to construct Positive-Operator-Valued-Measures (POVMs) for the timeof-arrival, which are valid for a general Hamiltonian. These POVMs typically depend on the resolution of the measurement device; for a free particle, however, this dependence cancels in the physically relevant regime and the POVM coincides with that of Kijowski. 1
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We study the decay of unstable states by formulating quantum tunneling as a time-of-arrival problem: we determine the detection probability for particles at a detector located a distance L from the tunneling region. For this purpose, we use a positive-operator-valued measure (POVM) for the time-of-arrival determined by Anastopoulos and Savvidou [J. Math. Phys. 47, 122106 (2006)]. This only depends on the initial state, the Hamiltonian, and the location of the detector. The POVM above provides a well-defined probability density and an unambiguous interpretation of all quantities involved. We demonstrate that the exponential decay only arises if three specific mathematical conditions are met. Their physical content is the following: (i) the decay time is much larger than any microscopic timescale, so that the fine details of the initial state can be ignored, (ii) there is no quantum coherence between the different “attempts” of the particle to traverse the barrier, and (iii) the transmission probability varies little within the momentum spread of the initial state. We also determine the long time limits of the decay probability and we identify regimes, in which the decays have no exponential phase.