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arXiv:2209.02587

Is there truly classical information?

Andrei T. Patrascu

Published Aug 4, 2022• 0 citations
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Abstract

All entropy is entanglement entropy. This appears as the result of the existence of black holes. The origin of entropy and the way in which it defines the perceived time direction in macroscopic systems has been discussed and can be debated as long as one ignores black holes. In such a case, thermodynamic entropy may define the arrow of time and entanglement entropy defines some special globally defined entropy encoding information in a non-local sense. With black holes however, if we accept that in-falling objects must have their information encoded outside, for example through non-local fluctuations away from thermalisation of the Hawking radiation, and that the horizon of a black hole cuts all classical information from the outside, then all the entropy that can be added to the black hole, which is basically any form of entropy, must be translated into some form of entanglement entropy to be detected outside. A discussion about the nature of information channels shows that spacetime may not be a correlation-insensitive channel as usually employed in the engineering of quantum computing. Time may emerge as a property of the complexity of entanglement spreading.

DOI
10.48550/arxiv.2209.02587

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All entropy is entanglement entropy. This appears as the result of the existence of black holes. The origin of entropy and the way in which it defines the perceived time direction in macroscopic systems has been discussed and can be debated as long as one ignores black holes. In such a case, thermodynamic entropy may define the arrow of time and entanglement entropy defines some special globally defined entropy encoding information in a non-local sense. With black holes however, if we accept that in-falling objects must have their information encoded outside, for example through non-local fluctuations away from thermalisation of the Hawking radiation, and that the horizon of a black hole cuts all classical information from the outside, then all the entropy that can be added to the black hole, which is basically any form of entropy, must be translated into some form of entanglement entropy to be detected outside. A discussion about the nature of information channels shows that spacetime may not be a correlation-insensitive channel as usually employed in the engineering of quantum computing. Time may emerge as a property of the complexity of entanglement spreading.
The thermodynamic entropy of an isolated system is given by its von Neumann entropy. Over the last few years, there has been an intense activity to understand the thermodynamic entropy from the principles of quantum mechanics. More specifically, is there a relation between the (von Neumann) entropy of entanglement between a system and some (separate) environment and the thermodynamic entropy? It is difficult to obtain the relation for many body systems, hence, most of the work in the literature has focused on small number systems. In this work, we consider black holes—which are simple yet macroscopic systems—and show that a direct connection could not be made between the entropy of entanglement and the Hawking temperature. In this work, within the adiabatic approximation, we explicitly show that the Hawking temperature is indeed given by the rate of change of the entropy of entanglement across a black hole’s horizon with regard to the system energy. This is yet other numerical evidence leading to understanding the key features of black-hole thermodynamics from the viewpoint of quantum information theory.
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