We derive the classical Hamilton-Jacobi equation from first principles as the natural description for smooth stochastic processes when one neglects stochastic velocity fluctuations. The Schrödinger equation is shown to be the natural exact equation for describing smooth stochastic processes. In particular, processes with up to quadratic stochastic fluctuations are electromagnetically coupled quantum point particles. The stochastic derivation offers a clear geometric picture for Quantum Mechanics as a locally realistic hidden variable theory. While that sounds paradoxical, we show that Bell's formula for local realism is incomplete. If one includes smooth stochastic fluctuations for the hidden variables, local realism is preserved and quantum mechanics is obtained. Quantum mechanics should therefore be viewed as a "nondeterministic, non-Bell locally realistic hidden variable theory". Since the description is simply a stochastic process, it should be relatively straightforward to create mesoscopic analogue systems that show all the hallmarks of Quantum Mechanics, including super-Bell correlations. In fact, any system that can be described by the linear time evolution of a density matrix is both a stochastic and a Quantum system from our point of view, since we show that the existence of a transition probability density directly implies the existence of a density matrix. Systems for which the stochastic degrees of freedom vary smoothly over time have quantum Hamiltonians with standard kinetic terms.
We derive the classical Hamilton-Jacobi equation from first principles as the natural description for smooth stochastic processes when one neglects stochastic velocity fluctuations. The Schrödinger equation is shown to be the natural exact equation for describing smooth stochastic processes. In particular, processes with up to quadratic stochastic fluctuations are electromagnetically coupled quantum point particles. The stochastic derivation offers a clear geometric picture for Quantum Mechanics as a locally realistic hidden variable theory. While that sounds paradoxical, we show that Bell's formula for local realism is incomplete. If one includes smooth stochastic fluctuations for the hidden variables, local realism is preserved and quantum mechanics is obtained. Quantum mechanics should therefore be viewed as a "nondeterministic, non-Bell locally realistic hidden variable theory". Since the description is simply a stochastic process, it should be relatively straightforward to create mesoscopic analogue systems that show all the hallmarks of Quantum Mechanics, including super-Bell correlations. In fact, any system that can be described by the linear time evolution of a density matrix is both a stochastic and a Quantum system from our point of view, since we show that the existence of a transition probability density directly implies the existence of a density matrix. Systems for which the stochastic degrees of freedom vary smoothly over time have quantum Hamiltonians with standard kinetic terms.
This study examines integrating the Schrödinger equation with classical mechanics using a virtual axis-to-dimensional expansion. One-dimensional material fluctuations are viewed in a two-dimensional plane, explaining the random nature of these fluctuations and their spatial and temporal trajectories. A quantum-consistent force field is proposed, with its strength determined by the Planck constant and inversely proportional to the distance from the stationary point. Newton's second law is applied to establish a second-order linear differential equation for material fluctuations, from which the standard one-dimensional Schrödinger equation is derived, showing their equivalence. The study extends the three-dimensional Schrödinger equation to include external forces and explains quantum phenomena like energy levels and transitions through particle trajectory changes. This approach connects classical mechanics and quantum mechanics, offering a concise and intuitive formulation with clear physical significance.
This paper proposes an interpretation of quantum mechanics, relying on the time-symmetric stochastic dynamics of quantum particles and on non-classical probability theory. Our main purpose is to demonstrate that the wave function and its complex conjugate can be interpreted as complex probability distributions in two complex diffusion equations related to non-real forward and backward in time stochastic motions respectively. We say non-real because Schroedinger forward and backward diffusions describe both reversible (real trajectories) and irreversible trajectories (non-real trajectories). The reversible trajectories are the only real trajectories and are given by the intersection of those forward and backward processes. It turns out that if we translate this intersection using set-theoretic language, we are led to a reversible diffusion described by Born rule probabilities. This proposal is useful also for explaining more about the role of complex numbers in quantum mechanics that produces this so-called "wave-like" nature of quantum reality. Our perspective also challenges the notion of physical superposition and aims at a derivation of superposition principle not based on the linearity of Schroedinger's equation but relying on pure probability theory. Moreover, it is suggested that, embracing the idea of stochastic processes in quantum theory, explains the reasons for the appearance of classical behavior in large objects, in contrast to the quantum behavior of small ones. In other words, we claim that a combination of a probabilistic and no-ontic view (neither epistemic though) of the wave function with a stochastic hidden-variables approach, may provide some insight into the quantum physical reality and potentially establish the groundwork for a novel interpretation of quantum mechanics.
A well-known formulation of classical mechanics of system of particles is based on solving the Hamilton-Jacobi equation ∂S ∂t + H ( qi , ∂S ∂qi , t ) = 0, (19.1) where S(qi , αi , t) is Hamilton’s principal function, H is the Hamiltonian, qi are the configuration space variables, αi are constants of integration, and t denotes time. If the Hamiltonian is independent of t and is a constant of motion equal to the total energy E, then S and Hamilton’s characteristic function W are related by S = W − Et . (19.2) Since W is independent of time, the surfaces with W = constant have fixed locations in configuration space. However, the S = constant surfaces move in time and may be considered as wavefronts propagating in this space [1]. For a single particle one can show that the wave velocity at any point is given by u = E|∇W | = E p = E mv . (19.3) T&F Cat # K11224, Chapter 19, Page 302, 15-9-2010 This shows that the velocity of a point on this surface is inversely proportional to the spatial velocity of the particle. Also one can show that the trajectories of the particle must always be normal to the surfaces of constant S. The momentum of the particle is obtained as [1] p = ∇W . (19.4) It is not clear whether this wave picture was known to classical physicists. However, in hindsight, we may now observe that there exists a correspondence between classical mechanics and geometrical optics. That is, the particle trajectories orthogonal to surfaces of constant S in classical mechanics, as we have discussed above, are similar to light rays traveling orthogonal to Huygens’ wavefronts.
Within a stochastic picture quantum systems can be described in terms of kinematic and dynamic equations where the particles follow a conservative diffusion process. Pavon has shown that these equations and the Schrödinger equation can be derived from a quantum Hamilton principle, generalizing the Hamilton principle from classical mechanics. As shown recently by Köppe et al for the one-dimensional case, the reformulation of the quantum Hamilton principle as a stochastic optimal control problem leads to quantum Hamilton equations of motion which can be seen as a non relativistic generalization of Hamilton's equations of motion to the quantum world. In this report we will extend this to higher dimensional problems and derive, by incorporating the concept of supersymmetric quantum mechanics, a general scheme that allows the determination of all bound states within the stochastic framework. Physical principles from classical mechanics like the decoupling of the center-of-mass motion in multi-particle systems or the solution of the Kepler problem, as a special case of the two-body problem, using space-time symmetries, are translated to this formulation of quantum mechanics. We will present numerical results for the ground state and lower excited states of the hydrogen atom in Cartesian coordinates, and, additionally, we will show that for spherically symmetric potentials the solution of the two-body problem can be reduced to a system of equations concerning only the radial part.
Abstract Schrödinger’s equation (SE) stands as one of the most recognized formulas in physics, yet its derivation and interpretation vary widely across different theoretical frameworks of quantum mechanics. In this paper, we explore five distinct approaches to obtaining SE: via the optico-mechanical analogy, a group-theoretic method, the action principle (through Hamilton–Jacobi theory and path integrals), stochastic mechanics, and direct postulation. Each derivation is analysed in light of the conceptual foundations it implies, with special attention to how it aligns with the orthodox, realistic, and statistical interpretations of quantum theory. By comparing these frameworks, it is emphasized the interpretative flexibility of SE and the philosophical implications of treating it as a derived versus a postulated equation. This comparison sheds light on the multiplicity of paths that converge on the same mathematical structure, on the particularities of these structures, and on the interpretive tensions that underlie quantum mechanics as a physical theory.
In the literature, stochastic approaches employed to derive the Schrodinger equation seem to focus on the idea of a classical spatial density which depends on time and space ie. density(x,t). As a result, d/dt (partial) density appears in various equations such as the continuity and Focker Planck equations. At one point in the derivation the quantum wavefunction is introduced “mathematically” as W(x,t)=sqrt(density(x,t)) exp(i S(x,t)) where S is related to a velocity field through u(x,t)=velocity= d/dx S. From quantum mechanics, -Et becomes a term of S the velocity field. The stochastic/hydrodynamical approaches employ the term du/dt partial = d/dt (partial) d/dx S and then “pull out”” d/dx leaving d/dt (partial) S which yields -E average energy from the -Et term. In this note we argue that for a bound quantum state density(x) so d/dt (partial) density = 0, yet the statistical ideas of quantum mechanics should be present in such a case. Furthermore for the free particle wavefunction exp(ipx-iEt), density=1. In fact, the Schrodinger equation should follow for a free particle even the case of density=1. Stochastic processes seem to be based on equations which consider a change in classical spatial density at a point x in time due to flow in or out or stochastic changes. Quantum processes seem to deal with periodic probability changes from one dimension to another exp(ipx) (2 dimensions) which are somehow related to a physical process of momentum flow. Ultimately one links this process to an energy conservation which does not seem to be the same as a classical stochastic/hydrodynamical approach. In this note we argue that a free particle with a constant momentum p has periodic stochastic processes associated with it through its complex probability change in the region of its wavelength, but that these are linked to creating the momentum p. Furthermore momentum is linked to energy so we argue that the Schrodinger equation is a stochastic equation linking energy and momentum and that time and space are separated i.e. there is no situation of following a change in spatial density in time for a free particle with momentum p. For a bound state, one has a distribution of free particles, but again time is removed from the problem in the sense that it only appears in exp(-iEt) in the wavefunction to again establish a relationship between energy and average momentum and potential. There is again no nonzero d/dt (partial) density term which seems to be key in stochastic equations. Only if one takes a linear combination of energy eigenstates Sum over En an(En) exp(-iEnt) Wn(x) does one obtain the form density(x,t), but we argue that quantum features should already appear in exp(ipx) and the bound state scenario with a zero d/dt (partial) density(x,t). We argue, however, that the Schrodinger equation and fundamental stochastic ideas of quantum mechanics should already be present at the level of exp(ipx).