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arXiv:1807.10469

Nonunitary Newtonian Gravity Makes Semiclassical Gravity Viable for All Practical Purposes

Sergio De Filippo

Published Jul 27, 2018• 1 citation
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Abstract

Semiclassical Gravity replaces the energy momentum tensor $T_{μν}$ with its expectation value $\langle T_{μν}\rangle$ in Einstein equations, this making the Einstein tensor $G_{μν}$ a classical variable thus avoiding the quantization of the gravitational field. Jointly with the Copenhagen interpretation of QM, Semiclassical Gravity gives rise to cases of Superluminal Communication. It is shown in a specific instance that a model of Nonunitary Newtonian Gravity avoids Superluminal Communication by decohering linear superpositions of macroscopically distinct states, namely Schrodinger's cats.

DOI
10.48550/arxiv.1807.10469

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Semiclassical Gravity replaces the energy momentum tensor TμνT_{μν}Tμν​ with its expectation value ⟨Tμν⟩\langle T_{μν}\rangle⟨Tμν​⟩ in Einstein equations, this making the Einstein tensor GμνG_{μν}Gμν​ a classical variable thus avoiding the quantization of the gravitational field. Jointly with the Copenhagen interpretation of QM, Semiclassical Gravity gives rise to cases of Superluminal Communication. It is shown in a specific instance that a model of Nonunitary Newtonian Gravity avoids Superluminal Communication by decohering linear superpositions of macroscopically distinct states, namely Schrodinger's cats.
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The necessity of quantising the gravitational field is still subject to an open debate. In this paper we compare the approach of quantum gravity, with that of a fundamentally semi-classical theory of gravity, in the weak-field non-relativistic limit. We show that, while in the former case the Schrödinger equation stays linear, in the latter case one ends up with the so-called Schrödinger-Newton equation, which involves a nonlinear, non-local gravitational contribution. We further discuss that the Schrödinger-Newton equation does not describe the collapse of the wave-function, although it was initially proposed for exactly this purpose. Together with the standard collapse postulate, fundamentally semi-classical gravity gives rise to superluminal signalling. A consistent fundamentally semi-classical theory of gravity can therefore only be achieved together with a suitable prescription of the wave-function collapse. We further discuss, how collapse models avoid such superluminal signalling and compare the nonlinearities appearing in these models with those in the Schrödinger-Newton equation.
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Experiments are beginning to probe the interaction of quantum particles with gravitational fields beyond the uniform-field regime. In nonrelativistic quantum mechanics, the gravitational field in such experiments can be written as a superposition state. We empirically demonstrate that semiclassical theories of gravity can avoid gravitational superposition states only by decoupling the gravitational field energy from the quantum particle's time evolution. Furthermore, such theories must specify a preferred quantum reference frame in which the equations of motion are valid. To the extent that these properties are theoretically implausible, recent experiments provide indirect evidence that gravity has quantum features. Proposed experiments with superposed gravitational sources would provide even stronger evidence that gravity is nonclassical.