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arXiv:1608.01640 · Physical Review A

Comment on “Particle path through a nested Mach-Zehnder interferometer”

Hatim Salih

Published Feb 9, 2018• 17 citations

Abstract

In a recent paper [Phys. Rev. A 94, 032115 (2016)], Griffiths questioned---based on an interesting consistent-histories (CH) argument---the counterfactuality, for one of the bit choices, of the protocol of Salih et al. for communicating without sending physical particles [Phys. Rev. Lett. 110, 170502 (2013)]. Here, we first show that for the Mach-Zehnder version used to explain our protocol, contrary to Griffiths's claim, no family of consistent histories exists where any history has the photon traveling through the communication channel, thus rendering the question of whether the photon was in the communication channel meaningless from a CH viewpoint. We then show that for the actual Michelson-type protocol, there is a consistent-histories family for each cycle that includes histories where the photon travels through the communication channel. We show that the probability of finding the photon in the communication channel at any time is zero---proving complete counterfactuality.

DOI: 10.1103/physreva.97.026101

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