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arXiv:1309.2484

Deriving the time-dependent Schrodinger m- and p-equations from the Klein-Gordon equation

Paul Kinsler

Published Sep 10, 2013• 1 citation
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Abstract

I present an alternative and rather direct way to derive the well known Schrödinger equation for a quantum wavefunction, by starting with the Klein Gordon equation and applying a directional factorization scheme. And since if you have a directionally factorizing hammer, everything looks like a factorizable nail, I also derive an alternative wavefunction propagation equation in the momentum-dominated limit. This new Schrödinger $p$-equation therefore provides a potentially useful complement to the traditional Schrödinger $m$-equation's mass-dominated limit.

DOI
10.48550/arxiv.1309.2484

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