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arXiv:1006.5662
Comment on "Coherent Detection of Electron Dephasing'' [arXiv:0909.2197] А. В. Никулов
Published Jun 29, 2010 • 1 citation
Abstract It is shown that the theoretical result according to which electrons can be reflected because of magnetic flux in the Aharonov-Bohm ring contradicts to the fundamental law of momentum conservation and can not conform with the Aharonov-Bohm effect. Therefore a publication of Phys. Rev. Lett. [arXiv:0909.2197] based on this result can not be correct.
DOI 10.48550/arxiv.1006.5662 Related papers Aptly named Aharonov-Bohm effect has classical analogue, long history
Murray Peshkin
I am an author of the 1961 paper that first called the Aharonov-Bohm effect by that name. 1 1. M. Peshkin, I. Talmi, L. J. Tassie, Ann. Phys. 12, 426 (1961). The term has since appeared in more than 1000 published papers. However, it has been suggested a few times, most recently by Peter Sturrock and Timothy Groves, that the name does not do justice to Werner Ehrenberg and Raymond Siday, who found in 1949 that the motion of electrons can be influenced by magnetic fields confined to regions that the electrons do not enter. 2 2. W. Ehrenberg, R. E. Siday, Proc. Phys. Soc. B 62, 8 (1949). I argue that the name Aharonov-Bohm effect is appropriate, although for a reason that I did not fully appreciate in 1961.The 1959 Aharonov-Bohm paper profoundly changed the way we think about electromagnetic fields in quantum mechanics. 3 3. Y. Aharonov, D. Bohm, Phys. Rev. 115, 485 (1959). The gauge-invariant part of the vector potential was promoted to a real physical field, not just a convenient device for summarizing certain information about the electric and magnetic fields. In the words of C. N. Yang, “The electromagnetic field strength fµv in quantum mechanics underdescribes electromagnetism, as the Bohm-Aharonov effect demonstrates … information about the phase factor exp[ie∮(A⋅dx)/ℏc] for all closed loops correctly describes electromagnetism.” 4 4. C. N. Yang, in Proceedings of the International Symposium on Foundations of Quantum Mechanics in the Light of New Technology, Tokyo, 1983, S. Kamefuchi et al. , eds., Physical Society of Japan, Tokyo (1984), p. 5.See also T. T. Wu, C. N. Yang, Phys. Rev. D 12, 3845 (1975). A century earlier, James Clerk Maxwell changed the way we think about action at a distance by identifying what we now call the Maxwell fields as real physical things that contain energy and momentum and that enable microscopic conservation laws; they are not just mathematical functions that summarize the necessary information about the past motions of charges. Later those physical fields had to be quantized. Yakir Aharonov and David Bohm found that in quantum mechanics the Maxwell fields in a multiply connected region do not contain all the physics; the vector potential must also be endowed with reality to make sense of the subtler interactions in quantum mechanics. Neither Aharonov and Bohm nor Ehrenberg and Siday were the first to observe that magnetic fields in places where a charged particle’s wave function vanishes may influence the motion of that particle. 5 5. P. A. M. Dirac, Proc. R. Soc. London A 133, 60 (1931) F. London, Nature 140, 793 (1937). Paul Dirac, in his 1931 paper on magnetic monopoles, noted that the electron’s wavefunction must vanish on singular flux lines but said nothing about that raising any question of nonlocality. Fritz London pointed out in the 1930s that the motion of electrons in a superconducting ring depends on an external magnetic flux through the hole in the ring, where the electrons cannot go. He wrote in his 1937 paper, “The most stable state of a ring has no current, unless an external magnetic field is applied.” Like Dirac, he said nothing about a nonlocal action of the magnetic field being surprising or unusual. Of course, London, like Dirac, was focusing on something else.Ehrenberg and Siday were also focusing on something else—electron optics—when they found in 1949 that the motion of an electron can depend on the magnetic field in a region from which the electron is excluded. They chose not to mention that curious phenomenon in the abstract of their paper, although they did explicitly say elsewhere that it was “curious.”None of those earlier authors went on to conclude that such a phenomenon implies that the vector potential has to be seen as a real physical field in quantum mechanics. Only Aharonov and Bohm did that.REFERENCESSection:ChooseTop of pageREFERENCES <<1. M. Peshkin, I. Talmi, L. J. Tassie, Ann. Phys. 12, 426 (1961). Google ScholarCrossref, ISI2. W. Ehrenberg, R. E. Siday, Proc. Phys. Soc. B 62, 8 (1949). Google ScholarCrossref3. Y. Aharonov, D. Bohm, Phys. Rev. 115, 485 (1959). Google ScholarCrossref, ISI4. C. N. Yang, in Proceedings of the International Symposium on Foundations of Quantum Mechanics in the Light of New Technology, Tokyo, 1983, S. Kamefuchi et al. , eds., Physical Society of Japan, Tokyo (1984), p. 5. Google ScholarSee also T. T. Wu, C. N. Yang, Phys. Rev. D 12, 3845 (1975). Google ScholarCrossref, ISI5. P. A. M. Dirac, Proc. R. Soc. London A 133, 60 (1931) Google ScholarCrossref F. London, Nature 140, 793 (1937). , Google ScholarCrossref© 2010 American Institute of Physics.
Physics Today • Aug 1, 2010• 1 citation
More variations on Aharonov-Bohm
Peter Andrew Sturrock, T. R. Groves
Having read “The Aharonov-Bohm Effects: Variations on a Subtle Theme” by Herman Batelaan and Akira Tono-mura (Physics Today, September 2009, page 38), we note with some dismay that the principal effect, that related to magnetic flux, continues to be attributed to its re-discoverers rather than to the original discoverers. Batelaan and Tonomura write, “The AB effect was already implicit in the 1926 Schrödinger equation, but it would be another three decades before theorists Yakir Aharonov and David Bohm pointed it out.” 1 1. Y. Aharonov, D. Bohm, Phys. Rev. 115, 485 (1959). That is incorrect: It took only two decades before the effect was pointed out, not by Aharonov and Bohm but by Werner Ehrenberg and Raymond “Rory” Siday. 2 2. W. Ehrenberg, R. E. Siday, Proc. Phys. Soc. B 62, 8 (1949). Aharonov and Bohm cited that prior publication in their second article. 3 3. Y. Aharonov, D. Bohm, Phys. Rev. 123, 1511(1961). According to Bohm’s biographer F. David Peat, “After their first paper had been published, Bohm learned that the effect had already been postulated by a maverick physicist called Rory E. Siday.” 4 4. F. D. Peat, Infinite Potential: The Life and Times of David Bohm, Addison-Wesley, Reading, MA (1997), p. It seems curious that the biographer should use the term “postulated” rather than “proposed” and that he should comment on Siday’s personality but not on Ehrenberg’s. One of us (Sturrock) knew them both: Raymond was very smart but somewhat brash; Werner was erudite and a model of propriety, who would never have subscribed his name to an article unless he was convinced it was correct.It seems that the main scientific, rather than sociological, reason that the AB proposal was taken more seriously than the ES proposal is that the former was presented in the context of quantum mechanics, the latter in the context of electron optics. Aharonov and Bohm made a rapid transition from quantum mechanics to wave theory. Ehrenberg and Siday made a more detailed transition from geometrical optics to wave theory. For the case of magnetic flux, the two articles presented identical theoretical predictions. Our view is that the ES article was tedious but conceptually sound, whereas the AB article was lively but involved a questionable conceptual leap—namely, a relativistic generalization based on a noncovariant analysis. Soon after Sturrock arrived at Stanford University in 1955, and before the Aharonov-Bohm publication, he asked Leonard Schiff, Stanford’s quantum mechanics expert, whether Schiff found the Ehrenberg-Siday proposal convincing. He did.In the interests of accuracy and of giving credit where credit is due, we think it would be appropriate to use “Ehrenberg-Siday effect” for the case of magnetic interference and to reserve “Aharonov-Bohm effect” for electrical interference.We are indebted to Elliott Bloom, Dieter Kern, Walt Harrison, Peter Hawkes, Garret Moddel, Fabian Pease, Jeff Scargle, and Lenny Susskind for helpful discussions on this matter.REFERENCESSection:ChooseTop of pageREFERENCES <<CITING ARTICLES1. Y. Aharonov, D. Bohm, Phys. Rev. 115, 485 (1959). Google ScholarCrossref, ISI2. W. Ehrenberg, R. E. Siday, Proc. Phys. Soc. B 62, 8 (1949). Google ScholarCrossref3. Y. Aharonov, D. Bohm, Phys. Rev. 123, 1511(1961). Google ScholarCrossref, ISI4. F. D. Peat, Infinite Potential: The Life and Times of David Bohm, Addison-Wesley, Reading, MA (1997), p. Google Scholar© 2010 American Institute of Physics.
Physics Today • Apr 1, 2010• 6 citations
The Aharonov–Bohm effect and Tonomura et al. experiments: Rigorous results
Miguel Ballesteros, Ricardo Weder
The Aharonov–Bohm effect is a fundamental issue in physics. It describes the physically important electromagnetic quantities in quantum mechanics. Its experimental verification constitutes a test of the theory of quantum mechanics itself. The remarkable experiments of Tonomura et al. [“Observation of Aharonov-Bohm effect by electron holography,” Phys. Rev. Lett 48, 1443 (1982) and “Evidence for Aharonov-Bohm effect with magnetic field completely shielded from electron wave,” Phys. Rev. Lett 56, 792 (1986)] are widely considered as the only experimental evidence of the physical existence of the Aharonov–Bohm effect. Here we give the first rigorous proof that the classical ansatz of Aharonov and Bohm of 1959 [“Significance of electromagnetic potentials in the quantum theory,” Phys. Rev. 115, 485 (1959)], that was tested by Tonomura et al., is a good approximation to the exact solution to the Schrödinger equation. This also proves that the electron, that is, represented by the exact solution, is not accelerated, in agreement with the recent experiment of Caprez et al. in 2007 [“Macroscopic test of the Aharonov–Bohm effect,” Phys. Rev. Lett. 99, 210401 (2007)], that shows that the results of the Tonomura et al. experiments can not be explained by the action of a force. Under the assumption that the incoming free electron is a Gaussian wave packet, we estimate the exact solution to the Schrödinger equation for all times. We provide a rigorous, quantitative error bound for the difference in norm between the exact solution and the Aharonov–Bohm Ansatz. Our bound is uniform in time. We also prove that on the Gaussian asymptotic state the scattering operator is given by a constant phase shift, up to a quantitative error bound that we provide. Our results show that for intermediate size electron wave packets, smaller than the ones used in the Tonomura et al. experiments, quantum mechanics predicts the results observed by Tonomura et al. with an error bound smaller than 10−99. It would be quite interesting to perform experiments with electron wave packets of intermediate size. Furthermore, we provide a physical interpretation of our error bound.
arXiv:0903.2609 • Journal of Mathematical Physics • Dec 1, 2009• 25 citations
It is shown that the theoretical result according to which electrons can be reflected because of magnetic flux in the Aharonov-Bohm ring contradicts to the fundamental law of momentum conservation and can not conform with the Aharonov-Bohm effect. Therefore a publication of Phys. Rev. Lett. [arXiv:0909.2197] based on this result can not be correct.
Abstract Recently, Schreiber et al (2024 New J. Phys. 26 043012) have presented the theory of an electron lens acting through the Aharonov–Bohm effect in the field-free opening of a static toroidal magnetic field. In this Comment, three key results of this theory are shown to be incorrect due to six basic calculation errors. The errors are corrected, and three correspondingly modified key results are derived. These results are discussed with respect to the hypothetical lens effect and the underlying Aharonov–Bohm effect.
I am an author of the 1961 paper that first called the Aharonov-Bohm effect by that name. 1 1. M. Peshkin, I. Talmi, L. J. Tassie, Ann. Phys. 12, 426 (1961). The term has since appeared in more than 1000 published papers. However, it has been suggested a few times, most recently by Peter Sturrock and Timothy Groves, that the name does not do justice to Werner Ehrenberg and Raymond Siday, who found in 1949 that the motion of electrons can be influenced by magnetic fields confined to regions that the electrons do not enter. 2 2. W. Ehrenberg, R. E. Siday, Proc. Phys. Soc. B 62, 8 (1949). I argue that the name Aharonov-Bohm effect is appropriate, although for a reason that I did not fully appreciate in 1961.The 1959 Aharonov-Bohm paper profoundly changed the way we think about electromagnetic fields in quantum mechanics. 3 3. Y. Aharonov, D. Bohm, Phys. Rev. 115, 485 (1959). The gauge-invariant part of the vector potential was promoted to a real physical field, not just a convenient device for summarizing certain information about the electric and magnetic fields. In the words of C. N. Yang, “The electromagnetic field strength fµv in quantum mechanics underdescribes electromagnetism, as the Bohm-Aharonov effect demonstrates … information about the phase factor exp[ie∮(A⋅dx)/ℏc] for all closed loops correctly describes electromagnetism.” 4 4. C. N. Yang, in Proceedings of the International Symposium on Foundations of Quantum Mechanics in the Light of New Technology, Tokyo, 1983, S. Kamefuchi et al. , eds., Physical Society of Japan, Tokyo (1984), p. 5.See also T. T. Wu, C. N. Yang, Phys. Rev. D 12, 3845 (1975). A century earlier, James Clerk Maxwell changed the way we think about action at a distance by identifying what we now call the Maxwell fields as real physical things that contain energy and momentum and that enable microscopic conservation laws; they are not just mathematical functions that summarize the necessary information about the past motions of charges. Later those physical fields had to be quantized. Yakir Aharonov and David Bohm found that in quantum mechanics the Maxwell fields in a multiply connected region do not contain all the physics; the vector potential must also be endowed with reality to make sense of the subtler interactions in quantum mechanics. Neither Aharonov and Bohm nor Ehrenberg and Siday were the first to observe that magnetic fields in places where a charged particle’s wave function vanishes may influence the motion of that particle. 5 5. P. A. M. Dirac, Proc. R. Soc. London A 133, 60 (1931) F. London, Nature 140, 793 (1937). Paul Dirac, in his 1931 paper on magnetic monopoles, noted that the electron’s wavefunction must vanish on singular flux lines but said nothing about that raising any question of nonlocality. Fritz London pointed out in the 1930s that the motion of electrons in a superconducting ring depends on an external magnetic flux through the hole in the ring, where the electrons cannot go. He wrote in his 1937 paper, “The most stable state of a ring has no current, unless an external magnetic field is applied.” Like Dirac, he said nothing about a nonlocal action of the magnetic field being surprising or unusual. Of course, London, like Dirac, was focusing on something else.Ehrenberg and Siday were also focusing on something else—electron optics—when they found in 1949 that the motion of an electron can depend on the magnetic field in a region from which the electron is excluded. They chose not to mention that curious phenomenon in the abstract of their paper, although they did explicitly say elsewhere that it was “curious.”None of those earlier authors went on to conclude that such a phenomenon implies that the vector potential has to be seen as a real physical field in quantum mechanics. Only Aharonov and Bohm did that.REFERENCESSection:ChooseTop of pageREFERENCES <<1. M. Peshkin, I. Talmi, L. J. Tassie, Ann. Phys. 12, 426 (1961). Google ScholarCrossref, ISI2. W. Ehrenberg, R. E. Siday, Proc. Phys. Soc. B 62, 8 (1949). Google ScholarCrossref3. Y. Aharonov, D. Bohm, Phys. Rev. 115, 485 (1959). Google ScholarCrossref, ISI4. C. N. Yang, in Proceedings of the International Symposium on Foundations of Quantum Mechanics in the Light of New Technology, Tokyo, 1983, S. Kamefuchi et al. , eds., Physical Society of Japan, Tokyo (1984), p. 5. Google ScholarSee also T. T. Wu, C. N. Yang, Phys. Rev. D 12, 3845 (1975). Google ScholarCrossref, ISI5. P. A. M. Dirac, Proc. R. Soc. London A 133, 60 (1931) Google ScholarCrossref F. London, Nature 140, 793 (1937). , Google ScholarCrossref© 2010 American Institute of Physics.
Having read “The Aharonov-Bohm Effects: Variations on a Subtle Theme” by Herman Batelaan and Akira Tono-mura (Physics Today, September 2009, page 38), we note with some dismay that the principal effect, that related to magnetic flux, continues to be attributed to its re-discoverers rather than to the original discoverers. Batelaan and Tonomura write, “The AB effect was already implicit in the 1926 Schrödinger equation, but it would be another three decades before theorists Yakir Aharonov and David Bohm pointed it out.” 1 1. Y. Aharonov, D. Bohm, Phys. Rev. 115, 485 (1959). That is incorrect: It took only two decades before the effect was pointed out, not by Aharonov and Bohm but by Werner Ehrenberg and Raymond “Rory” Siday. 2 2. W. Ehrenberg, R. E. Siday, Proc. Phys. Soc. B 62, 8 (1949). Aharonov and Bohm cited that prior publication in their second article. 3 3. Y. Aharonov, D. Bohm, Phys. Rev. 123, 1511(1961). According to Bohm’s biographer F. David Peat, “After their first paper had been published, Bohm learned that the effect had already been postulated by a maverick physicist called Rory E. Siday.” 4 4. F. D. Peat, Infinite Potential: The Life and Times of David Bohm, Addison-Wesley, Reading, MA (1997), p. It seems curious that the biographer should use the term “postulated” rather than “proposed” and that he should comment on Siday’s personality but not on Ehrenberg’s. One of us (Sturrock) knew them both: Raymond was very smart but somewhat brash; Werner was erudite and a model of propriety, who would never have subscribed his name to an article unless he was convinced it was correct.It seems that the main scientific, rather than sociological, reason that the AB proposal was taken more seriously than the ES proposal is that the former was presented in the context of quantum mechanics, the latter in the context of electron optics. Aharonov and Bohm made a rapid transition from quantum mechanics to wave theory. Ehrenberg and Siday made a more detailed transition from geometrical optics to wave theory. For the case of magnetic flux, the two articles presented identical theoretical predictions. Our view is that the ES article was tedious but conceptually sound, whereas the AB article was lively but involved a questionable conceptual leap—namely, a relativistic generalization based on a noncovariant analysis. Soon after Sturrock arrived at Stanford University in 1955, and before the Aharonov-Bohm publication, he asked Leonard Schiff, Stanford’s quantum mechanics expert, whether Schiff found the Ehrenberg-Siday proposal convincing. He did.In the interests of accuracy and of giving credit where credit is due, we think it would be appropriate to use “Ehrenberg-Siday effect” for the case of magnetic interference and to reserve “Aharonov-Bohm effect” for electrical interference.We are indebted to Elliott Bloom, Dieter Kern, Walt Harrison, Peter Hawkes, Garret Moddel, Fabian Pease, Jeff Scargle, and Lenny Susskind for helpful discussions on this matter.REFERENCESSection:ChooseTop of pageREFERENCES <<CITING ARTICLES1. Y. Aharonov, D. Bohm, Phys. Rev. 115, 485 (1959). Google ScholarCrossref, ISI2. W. Ehrenberg, R. E. Siday, Proc. Phys. Soc. B 62, 8 (1949). Google ScholarCrossref3. Y. Aharonov, D. Bohm, Phys. Rev. 123, 1511(1961). Google ScholarCrossref, ISI4. F. D. Peat, Infinite Potential: The Life and Times of David Bohm, Addison-Wesley, Reading, MA (1997), p. Google Scholar© 2010 American Institute of Physics.
The Aharonov–Bohm effect is a fundamental issue in physics. It describes the physically important electromagnetic quantities in quantum mechanics. Its experimental verification constitutes a test of the theory of quantum mechanics itself. The remarkable experiments of Tonomura et al. [“Observation of Aharonov-Bohm effect by electron holography,” Phys. Rev. Lett 48, 1443 (1982) and “Evidence for Aharonov-Bohm effect with magnetic field completely shielded from electron wave,” Phys. Rev. Lett 56, 792 (1986)] are widely considered as the only experimental evidence of the physical existence of the Aharonov–Bohm effect. Here we give the first rigorous proof that the classical ansatz of Aharonov and Bohm of 1959 [“Significance of electromagnetic potentials in the quantum theory,” Phys. Rev. 115, 485 (1959)], that was tested by Tonomura et al., is a good approximation to the exact solution to the Schrödinger equation. This also proves that the electron, that is, represented by the exact solution, is not accelerated, in agreement with the recent experiment of Caprez et al. in 2007 [“Macroscopic test of the Aharonov–Bohm effect,” Phys. Rev. Lett. 99, 210401 (2007)], that shows that the results of the Tonomura et al. experiments can not be explained by the action of a force. Under the assumption that the incoming free electron is a Gaussian wave packet, we estimate the exact solution to the Schrödinger equation for all times. We provide a rigorous, quantitative error bound for the difference in norm between the exact solution and the Aharonov–Bohm Ansatz. Our bound is uniform in time. We also prove that on the Gaussian asymptotic state the scattering operator is given by a constant phase shift, up to a quantitative error bound that we provide. Our results show that for intermediate size electron wave packets, smaller than the ones used in the Tonomura et al. experiments, quantum mechanics predicts the results observed by Tonomura et al. with an error bound smaller than 10−99. It would be quite interesting to perform experiments with electron wave packets of intermediate size. Furthermore, we provide a physical interpretation of our error bound.