Challenges
Datasets
Workspaces
Papers
Discussions
Leaderboard
Log inSign up
Challenges
Datasets
Workspaces
Papers
Discussions
Leaderboard
Blog
Job Board
Q3AS

© 2026 Aqora Quantum S.A.S.

TermsPrivacyLegal Notice

arXiv:1002.3005 · Progress of Theoretical Physics

Position Uncertainty in the Heisenberg Uncertainty Relation

Satoshi Kosugi

Published Mar 1, 2010• 1 citation
arXivHTMLPDF

Abstract

Position measurements are examined under the assumption that object position and probe position just after the measurement are expressed as a linear combination of positions and just before the measurement. The Heisenberg uncertainty relation between the position uncertainty and momentum disturbance holds when the measurement error ε(xt) for the object position is adopted as the position uncertainty. However, the uncertainty in the measurement result obtained for is the standard deviation of the measurement result, and not the measurement error ε(x0). This difference is due to the reduction of a wave packet. The validity of the linearity assumption is examined in detail.

DOI
10.1143/ptp.123.431

Related papers

Quantum Measurements, Instruments, and Uncertainty Principle

Masanao Ozawa

The Heisenberg uncertainty relation for measurement noise and disturbance states that any position measurement with noise ε brings the momentum disturbance not less than hbar⁄2ε. However, this relation holds only for restricted class of measurements. Here, we discuss universally valid uncertainty relations for measurement noise and disturbance, which hold for all the possible quantum measurements.

Interdisciplinary Information Sciences•Jan 1, 2004•1 citation

Quantum Measurements, Instruments, and Uncertainty Principle ( The Proceedings of the Second Sendai Workshop on Quantum Probability and Quantum Information)

Masanao Ozawa

The Heisenberg uncertainty relation for measurement noise and disturbance states that any position measurement with noise ε brings the momentum disturbance not less than h/2ε. However, this relation holds only for restricted class of measurements. Here, we discuss universally valid uncertainty relations for measurement noise and disturbance, which hold for all the possible quantum measurements.

•Mar 1, 2004•0 citations

Uncertainty in the Results of Position Measurement in the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle

Seiji Kosugi

Heisenbergの不確定性原理において,位置の測定値の不確定性として何を用いるべきかについて考察した.測定対象の位置としては,測定前の位置x0と測定後の位置xtの2つが考えられる.位置xtの測定値(xt)expの不確定性はこの測定値の測定誤差ε(xt)である.しかし位置x0の測定値(x0)expの不確定性は測定誤差ε(x0)ではなく,測定値(x0)expの標準偏差σ((x0)exp)である.位置の測定値の不確定性としてε(xt)またはσ((x0)exp)を用いた場合には,Heisenbergの不確定性関係は成立している.2つの位置情報の不確定性ε(xt)とσ((x0)exp)の非対称性を引き起こしているのは波束の収縮である.

•Feb 25, 2011•0 citations

Linear measurements

Vladimir B. Braginsky, Farid Ya Khalili, Kip S. Thorne

The measurement process and the uncertainty relation In the unstarred sections of previous chapters, the back action of the measuring device on the measured object was analyzed by simply invoking the Heisenberg uncertainty relation for the perturbation and the measurement error. Is this simple method of analysis justified? The measurement process does not show up in the standard formulation of the uncertainty relations. Instead, the standard formulation, which follows from the fundamental postulates of quantum mechanics (section 2.1), couples the intrinsic rms uncertainties of observables as defined by the quantum state. Nevertheless, the examples of indirect measurements discussed above (the Heisenberg microscope and Doppler speed meter in chapter I, and the electron probe in chapter III) exhibit a tight coupling between the measurement process and the uncertainty relations. In particular, both the measurement error and the perturbation of the object can be traced to the uncertainty properties of the probe's initial state, and from the fact that this initial state is subject to the uncertainty relations, one can show that the measurement error and perturbation are also subject to it. Is it also possible, starting from the uncertainty relations as properties of the object's quantum state, to obtain the uncertainty relations for the measurement process? To answer this question, let us discuss the following thought experiment: We suppose that a generalized coordinate of some quantum object is measured, and that before the measurement the object was in a state with a very well defined momentum.

Cambridge University Press eBooks•Sep 24, 1992•0 citations

Proof of Heisenberg's error-disturbance principle

Seiji Kosugi

In Heisenberg's error-disturbance relation for electron position measurement, the measurement error must be the one that determines the uncertainty in the electron position just after the measurement. It is the resolution $ε(x_t)$ i.e., the measurement error of the post-measurement observable $\hat{x}_t$, not the precision $ε(x_0)$ i.e., that of the pre-measurement observable $\hat{x}_0$ that determines the uncertainty of the observable $\hat{x}_t$. Therefore, Heisenberg's relation must be interpreted as one between the resolution $ε(x_t)$ and the disturbance $η(y_0)$. The magnitude of the disturbance $η(y_0)$ is independent of the definition of the measurement value of the observable $\hat{x}_t$. Heisenberg's error-disturbance relation is proven to hold true in general, when the measurement value of $\hat{x}_t$ is defined in order to minimize the resolution $ε(x_t)$.

arXiv:1504.03779•Apr 15, 2015•0 citations

Position measuring interactions and the Heisenberg uncertainty principle

Masanao Ozawa

A prevailing formulation of the Heisenberg uncertainty principle is re-examined that measuring position with noise $\\epsilon$ brings the momentum disturbance no less than $\\hbar/2\\epsilon$. With rigorous formulations of noise and disturbance, a model of a measuring interaction demonstrates that this formulation of the Heisenberg uncertainty principle is by no means universally valid. An experimental realization of the model is also suggested.

•Jun 30, 2001•36 citations
Position measurements are examined under the assumption that object position and probe position just after the measurement are expressed as a linear combination of positions and just before the measurement. The Heisenberg uncertainty relation between the position uncertainty and momentum disturbance holds when the measurement error ε(xt) for the object position is adopted as the position uncertainty. However, the uncertainty in the measurement result obtained for is the standard deviation of the measurement result, and not the measurement error ε(x0). This difference is due to the reduction of a wave packet. The validity of the linearity assumption is examined in detail.
Heisenbergの不確定性原理において,位置の測定値の不確定性として何を用いるべきかについて考察した.測定対象の位置としては,測定前の位置x0と測定後の位置xtの2つが考えられる.位置xtの測定値(xt)expの不確定性はこの測定値の測定誤差ε(xt)である.しかし位置x0の測定値(x0)expの不確定性は測定誤差ε(x0)ではなく,測定値(x0)expの標準偏差σ((x0)exp)である.位置の測定値の不確定性としてε(xt)またはσ((x0)exp)を用いた場合には,Heisenbergの不確定性関係は成立している.2つの位置情報の不確定性ε(xt)とσ((x0)exp)の非対称性を引き起こしているのは波束の収縮である.
The measurement process and the uncertainty relation In the unstarred sections of previous chapters, the back action of the measuring device on the measured object was analyzed by simply invoking the Heisenberg uncertainty relation for the perturbation and the measurement error. Is this simple method of analysis justified? The measurement process does not show up in the standard formulation of the uncertainty relations. Instead, the standard formulation, which follows from the fundamental postulates of quantum mechanics (section 2.1), couples the intrinsic rms uncertainties of observables as defined by the quantum state. Nevertheless, the examples of indirect measurements discussed above (the Heisenberg microscope and Doppler speed meter in chapter I, and the electron probe in chapter III) exhibit a tight coupling between the measurement process and the uncertainty relations. In particular, both the measurement error and the perturbation of the object can be traced to the uncertainty properties of the probe's initial state, and from the fact that this initial state is subject to the uncertainty relations, one can show that the measurement error and perturbation are also subject to it. Is it also possible, starting from the uncertainty relations as properties of the object's quantum state, to obtain the uncertainty relations for the measurement process? To answer this question, let us discuss the following thought experiment: We suppose that a generalized coordinate of some quantum object is measured, and that before the measurement the object was in a state with a very well defined momentum.
In Heisenberg's error-disturbance relation for electron position measurement, the measurement error must be the one that determines the uncertainty in the electron position just after the measurement. It is the resolution ε(xt)ε(x_t)ε(xt​) i.e., the measurement error of the post-measurement observable x^t\hat{x}_tx^t​, not the precision ε(x0)ε(x_0)ε(x0​) i.e., that of the pre-measurement observable x^0\hat{x}_0x^0​ that determines the uncertainty of the observable x^t\hat{x}_tx^t​. Therefore, Heisenberg's relation must be interpreted as one between the resolution ε(xt)ε(x_t)ε(xt​) and the disturbance η(y0)η(y_0)η(y0​). The magnitude of the disturbance η(y0)η(y_0)η(y0​) is independent of the definition of the measurement value of the observable x^t\hat{x}_tx^t​. Heisenberg's error-disturbance relation is proven to hold true in general, when the measurement value of x^t\hat{x}_tx^t​ is defined in order to minimize the resolution ε(xt)ε(x_t)ε(xt​).
A prevailing formulation of the Heisenberg uncertainty principle is re-examined that measuring position with noise epsilon\\epsilonepsilon brings the momentum disturbance no less than hbar/2epsilon\\hbar/2\\epsilonhbar/2epsilon. With rigorous formulations of noise and disturbance, a model of a measuring interaction demonstrates that this formulation of the Heisenberg uncertainty principle is by no means universally valid. An experimental realization of the model is also suggested.