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arXiv:0711.1976 · NeuroQuantology

Is Quantum Mechanics Needed to Explain Consciousness?

K. Thomsen

Published Feb 22, 2008• 6 citations
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Abstract

In this short comment to a recent contribution by E. Manousakis [1] it is argued that the reported agreement between the measured time evolution of conscious states during binocular rivalry and predictions derived from quantum mechanical formalisms does not require any direct effect of QM. The recursive consumption analysis process in the Ouroboros Model can yield the same behavior.

DOI
10.14704/nq.2008.6.1.155

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